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1 Traveling with Firearms Seminar Friday, April 13 th, 2018 Canada, eh! Mexico

2 Getting a Gun from Here to There Driving Flying FFL Shipping Traveling with Firearms

3 Primary Information Sources Traveling with Firearms

4 Primary Information Sources State Gun Laws Northeast Edition: Covers Connecticut, Delaware, District of Columbia, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Rhode Island, Vermont Paperback December 15, 2017 Traveling with Firearms

5 States on Route (FL to ME) Florida Georgia S. Carolina N. Carolina Virginia Wash, DC Maryland Delaware Pennsylvania New Jersey New York Connecticut Rhode Island Massachusetts New Hampshire Maine Interstate 95

6 States on Route (FL to MI) Florida Georgia Tennessee Kentucky Ohio (Illinois) Michigan Interstate 75

7 States on Route (FL to CA) Florida Alabama Mississippi Louisiana Texas New Mexico Arizona California Interstate 10

8 Map Out Course Traveled 1. Identify States Traversing 2. Review Relevant Pages to Ensure Compliance 3. Best Strategy: Don t Get Stopped! Locked in Trunk Traveling with Firearms

9 Relevant Federal Laws Peaceable Journey Act Gun Control Act of 1968 Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 FOPA Limited ATF Harassment of FFLs Permitted ammo sales through USPS Federal protection of transportation of firearms through states where possession of those firearms would otherwise be illegal Traveling with Firearms

10 Firearm Owners Protection Act of 1986 Persons traveling from one place to another have a defense for any State firearms offense in a state that has strict gun control laws if the traveler is just passing through (short stops for food and gasoline allowed) the firearms and ammunition are not immediately accessible to the driver the firearm(s) are unloaded and are located in a locked container other than the glove compartment Traveling with Firearms

Lockable Firearm Cases Pelican 1170 1 gun Ext 11.

11 Lockable Firearm Cases Pelican gun Ext 11.6" x 8.3" x 3.8 Multi-Colors $37 - $45 Waterproof/Crushproof Pick N Pluck foam Pre-Formed Foam Inserts Lifetime Warranty Lockable Meets TSA Rqm ts Traveling with Firearms

Lockable Firearm Cases Nanuk 910 2 Gun Case Outside 14 x 11 x 5 Power Claw Latches Waterproof, etc

12 Lockable Firearm Cases Nanuk Gun Case Outside 14 x 11 x 5 Power Claw Latches Waterproof, etc Lockable Meets TSA Olive, Tan Graphite - $50.66 Rated 4.6 of 5 Lifetime Warranty Traveling with Firearms

13 Lockable Firearm Cases Pelican 1450 Multi-Gun Ext 16" x 7" x 13 Black $100 Orange, Yellow - $150+ Waterproof/Crushproof Pick N Pluck foam Lifetime Warranty Lockable Meets TSA Rqm ts Traveling with Firearms

14 Firearm Case Locks Keyed or Combo $10 -$12 Get TSA Approved Open Indicator 3 or 4 Combo 4 x 10,000 harder to open Multi-Colors Traveling with Firearms

15 States on Route (FL to ME) Florida Georgia S. Carolina N. Carolina Virginia Wash, DC* Maryland* Delaware Pennsylvania New Jersey* New York* Connecticut* Rhode Island* Massachusetts* New Hampshire Maine Interstate 95

16 Checklist Semi-Auto High Cap Mags No Restrictions Firearm Law Uniformity Reciprocity with Florida Vehicle Carry by Non-Permittees Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify Preemption Law N/A May be concealed & loaded provided they are securely encased or otherwise not readily accessible Public Coll/Univ OK/ Prohibited Upon demand by LEO Florida

17 Checklist Semi-Auto High Cap Mags No Restrictions Firearm Law Uniformity Preemption Law Reciprocity with Florida Firearms Only, Over 21 Vehicle Carry by Non-Permittees Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify Anywhere in a Pvt Passenger Vehicle Both Ok with GA Permit Upon Demand of LEO Georgia

18 Checklist Semi-Auto High Cap Mags No Restrictions Firearm Law Uniformity Reciprocity with Florida Vehicle Carry by Non-Permittees Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify Preemption Law Firearms Only, Must be FL Resident Loaded handguns may be carried in glove box, console, or trunk. In closed compartment w/ SC permit Immediately upon LEO contact South Carolina

19 Checklist Semi-Auto High Cap Mags No Restrictions Firearm Law Uniformity Reciprocity with Florida Vehicle Carry by Non-Permittees Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify Preemption Law Firearms Only Loaded Firearms in holster or carried openly in passenger compartment Public schools OK w NC permit Some Pvt schools may prohibit Immediately upon LEO contact North Carolina

20 Checklist Semi-Auto High Cap Mags Firearm Law Uniformity Reciprocity with Florida Vehicle Carry by Non-Permittees Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify Streetsweeper shotguns prohibited, Mags >20 prohibited w non-va pmts Preemption Law Some counties prohibit loaded long guns in vehicles Firearms Only Loaded handguns in plain view or in glove box or console Regulations / OK w VA Permit Upon demand of LEO Virginia

21 Checklist Affirmative Defense Semi-Auto High Cap Mags Prohibited, AR-15 ban, Mags >10 Firearm Law Uniformity Reciprocity with Florida Vehicle Carry by Non-Permittees Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify Uniform throughout District None, No Body, No How! Unloaded, cased & locked in trunk no ammo in car, d/n stop in D.C. Prohibited/Prohibited Immediately upon LEO contact Washington, D.C.

22 Checklist Affirmative Defense Semi-Auto High Cap Mags Firearm Law Uniformity Reciprocity with Florida Vehicle Carry by Non-Permittees Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify May not import assault weapons, mags >10 Preemption Law w Exceptions None (Beware of Transit Police) Transported through state unloaded in locked case in trunk. Ammo in separate container Admin policy/ Prohibited Upon Demand of LEO Maryland

23 Checklist Semi-Auto High Cap Mags No Restrictions Firearm Law Uniformity Reciprocity with Florida Vehicle Carry by Non-Permittees Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify Preemption Law, pre-1985 laws grandfathered Reciprocity w no restrictions Openly or secured in vehicle Admin Policy / Lawful with DE Permit Upon demand by LEO Delaware

24 Checklist Semi-Auto High Cap Mags No Restrictions Firearm Law Uniformity Reciprocity with Florida Vehicle Carry by Non-Permittees Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify Preemption Law Firearm Only, FL Resident Unloaded, locked case in trunk Admin Policy / Prohibited Upon demand by LEO Pennsylvania

25 Checklist Affirmative Defense Semi-Auto High Cap Mags Firearm Law Uniformity Reciprocity with Florida Vehicle Carry by Non-Permittees Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify Assault weapons banned for entering state, no Mags >15 No state preemption laws Huh? Are you kidding? Prohibited Prohibited / Prohibited Upon demand by LEO New Jersey

26 Checklist Affirmative Defense Semi-Auto High Cap Mags Firearm Law Uniformity Reciprocity with Florida Vehicle Carry by Non-Permittees Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify May not bring assault weapons or mags >10 into state Local regulations, especially NYC No other states recognized Handgun requires NY license Prohibited / Prohibited Upon demand by LEO New York

27 Checklist Semi-Auto High Cap Mags Firearm Law Uniformity Reciprocity with Florida Vehicle Carry by Non-Permittees Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify Assault weapons or mags >10 banned No preemption law None Prohibited Admin Policy / Prohibited Upon demand by LEO Connecticut

28 Checklist Semi-Auto High Cap Mags No Restrictions Firearm Law Uniformity Reciprocity with Florida Vehicle Carry by Non-Permittees Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify Preemption Law None May carry through state with carry permit from any state, may not stop except for gas or emergency Admin Policy / Lawful w RI permit Upon demand by LEO Rhode Island

29 Checklist Semi-Auto High Cap Mags Firearm Law Uniformity Reciprocity with Florida Vehicle Carry by Non-Permittees Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify Permit req d to possess, no mag >10 Laws uniform in state Not even! Prohibited Prohibited / Prohibited Upon demand by LEO Massachusetts

30 Checklist Semi-Auto High Cap Mags No Restrictions Firearm Law Uniformity Reciprocity with Florida Vehicle Carry by Non-Permittees Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify Preemption Law Handgun Only, >21, FL resident Open or concealed anywhere in vehicle Admin Policy / Lawful w NH permit Upon Demand of LEO New Hampshire

31 Checklist Semi-Auto High Cap Mags No Restrictions Firearm Law Uniformity Reciprocity with Florida Vehicle Carry by Non-Permittees Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify Preemption Law Handgun Only, >21, FL Resident Handgun anywhere in vehicle, >21 Admin Policy / Prohibited Upon demand of LEO Maine

32 States on Route (FL to MI) Florida Georgia Tennessee Kentucky Ohio Michigan Interstate 75

33 Checklist Semi-Auto High Cap Mags No Restrictions Firearm Law Uniformity Reciprocity with Florida Vehicle Carry by Non-Permittees Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify Preemption Law Firearms Only, >21, FL Resident Loaded Firearm Ok anywhere Ok with TN Permit Upon demand by LEO Tennessee

34 Checklist Semi-Auto High Cap Mags No Restrictions Firearm Law Uniformity Reciprocity with Florida Vehicle Carry by Non-Permittees Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify Preemption Law Yes, no exceptions Plain view or concealed OK / KY Permit Upon demand by LEO Kentucky

35 Checklist (Must prove Self-Defense) Semi-Auto High Cap Mags No Restrictions Firearm Law Uniformity Reciprocity with Florida Vehicle Carry by Non-Permittees Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify Preemption Law Firearms Only Unloaded, action open, or cased OK with OH Permit Immediately upon contact Ohio

36 Checklist Semi-Auto High Cap Mags Firearm Law Uniformity Reciprocity with Florida Vehicle Carry by Non-Residents Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify FOID Req d, Local Restrictions Preemption law w/ exceptions None Loaded in Vehicle w/ Home State Permit Long guns UL/C ILL permits, School policy Upon Demand by LEO (Illinois)

37 Checklist Semi-Auto High Cap Mags Folding stock limitation Firearm Law Uniformity Reciprocity with Florida Vehicle Carry by Non-Permittees Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify Preemption Law Yes, FL Resident Long guns unloaded, cased, trunk Handguns with home state permit Admin Policy/MI permit only Immediately upon contact Michigan

38 States on Route (FL to CA) Florida Alabama Mississippi Louisiana Texas New Mexico Arizona California Interstate 10

39 Checklist Semi-Auto High Cap Mags No Restrictions Firearm Law Uniformity Uniform throughout state Reciprocity with Florida Handguns Only, >21 Vehicle Carry by Non-Permittees Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify Unloaded, cased, trunk Admin Policy Both Upon demand of LEO Alabama

40 Checklist Semi-Auto High Cap Mags No Restrictions Firearm Law Uniformity Reciprocity with Florida Vehicle Carry by Non-Permittees Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify Preemption Law Handguns Only Loaded, Concealed anywhere Gun owner Ok w or w/o permit, OK w MS permit Upon demand of LEO Mississippi

41 Checklist Semi-Auto High Cap Mags No Restrictions Firearm Law Uniformity Reciprocity with Florida Vehicle Carry by Non-Permittees Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify Preemption Law Handguns Only Open or concealed OK Any gun owner OK, LA permit OK Immediately upon contact Louisiana

42 Checklist Semi-Auto High Cap Mags No Restrictions Firearm Law Uniformity Reciprocity with Florida Vehicle Carry by Non-Permittees Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify Preemption Law Handguns only, >21, FL Resident Must be concealed, loaded OK OK w TX Permit Both Immediately upon contact Texas

43 Checklist Semi-Auto High Cap Mags No Restrictions Firearm Law Uniformity Reciprocity with Florida Vehicle Carry by Non-Permittees Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify Preemption Law Handguns only Must be concealed, loaded OK >19 per Policy, OK w NM Permit Upon demand of LEO New Mexico

44 Checklist Semi-Auto High Cap Mags No Restrictions Firearm Law Uniformity Reciprocity with Florida Vehicle Carry by Non-Permittees Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify Preemption Law FL Resident Loaded, Concealed or Open, >21 w or w/o permit Any gun owner, AZ permit unloaded Upon demand of LEO Arizona

45 Checklist Semi-Auto High Cap Mags No assault weapons, Mags >10 Firearm Law Uniformity Reciprocity with Florida Vehicle Carry by Non-Permittees Vehicle gun possession Colleges/K-12 Duty to Notify Preemption Law Maybe NO Unloaded in locked case in trunk Prohibited, unloaded in locked case Upon demand of LEO California

46 Considered Vehicles or Residences? Most States regard as Vehicles Courts have held a stationary motorhome w/ hookups is a residence State laws vary on vehicles vs residences Castle Doctrines Motorhomes

47 So, where is the Trunk? When Req d to be in Trunk Outside Compartment Must be visible outside vehicle or concealed When hooked up Residential laws may apply May be kept in Trailer vs Trunk Some states must be in vehicle Motorhomes

48 Canada

49 Handguns Illegal w/o Authorization to Transport (ATT) Weapon(s) Confiscated Vehicle impounded Likely prosecution Unloaded, locked case will NOT prevent seizure Long Guns Same as Handguns Any rifle remotely military in appearance banned All NFA items prohibited Magazines banned >5 centerfire rifles >10 centerfire pistols Canada

50 Sporting Rifles Rifles & Shotguns Barrels >18.5 >26 overall length Non-Resident Firearms Declaration Form In triplicate Before reaching the border $25 60 days Contact Unloaded, Locked case in trunk Returning to USA Proof you owned the gun before you left Customs from 4457 Receipt, bill-of-sale Canada

51 Complete at US border when leaving the country CBP Form 4457 Signed by CBP Will verify S/Ns Canada

52 Authorization To Transport RCMP 5490 Completed at border crossing Rarely approved for Americans Canada

53 Non-Resident Firearms Declaration RCMP 5589 Must have ATT first 3 part form Complete in Triplicate Canada

54 Mexico

55 NOT RECOMMENDED!! Possession of firearms or ammo prohibited Arrested & imprisoned until US authorities intervene Guilty Until Proved Innocent Special permits for hunting only Contact Mexican Consulate Mexico

56 So, you want to fly? Follow air carrier & TSA procedures Advise agent at checkin All guns & ammo Inside checked luggage Includes guns, ammo & gun parts Luggage hard sided container Locked Only passenger has key or combo Special Advisory NY & NJ Airports Will arrest you FOPA = Affirmative Defense Traveling with Firearms

57 If you play your cards right, this could be you!!

58 FFL to FFL Transfers Securely packaged D/N Seal until sending FFL can validate S/Ns Retrieve at receiving FFL Get Background Check Pay fee Local FFL Service Jeff Greenwood 904 Cancun Ct Lady Lake, FL Call first to make arrangements Details on VSS Website Traveling with Firearms

59 States to Avoid Maryland Wash., D.C. New Jersey New York Connecticut Rhode Island Massachusetts California Other Options Flying Avoid NE Avoid West Coast FFL to FFL Proper Packaging Do Not Seal Until S/N Verified Fee per gun New Background Check Summary

60 Transporting in Vehicle Very Risky in Some States Transporting on Airplane Not Safe in NE/West Coast Risk of Diversion FFL to FFL No Risk Safest Option Conclusions

61 Best Option of All? Buy 2 Guns North Gun South Gun Conclusions

62 Any Questions? Traveling with Firearms

STUN GUN LAWS/ REQUIREMENTS DATED

STUN GUN LAWS/ REQUIREMENTS DATED 11-09-15 State Laws / Permit Requirements Penalties-At-A-Glance Alabama Under Alabama law, a stun gun is not considered a firearm. Rather, Alabama defines a firearm as