P3 Vol8. Standard questions to begin. No new questions. CA Profile. FO Profile
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1 P3 Vol8 Standard questions to begin. No new questions. CA Profile LVO T/O WSSS 20C Contam Rwy 4 mm Standing Water X-W OK Viz 200 all zones CAT 2 LVP in progress TO Alternate required as wx below CAT 2 VMR 6B Dept restriction. AP in at 200ft During Clean up, ENG SVR Damage L TAC fails, stays failed throughout may not make 4000 restriction once engine fail. Tell ATC to remove LPA says F20 very close to rwy LDA for contam rwy Elect to use F30 landing LPA code EO3 Return to WSSS 20C CAT 2 Automatic GA due no visual Proceed to EXOMO Hold WSSS closed Divert to WIDD ILS04 Contam rwy 4 mm Standing Water Again elect to use F30 landing LPA code EO3 Manually flown WIDD ILS 04 from before LOC intercept Manual GA due no visual WIDD closed Divert back to WSSS WX improves wet runway Reset non-normal checklist for Eng SVR Damage L run checklist for F20 Cleared for RNAV WSSS 20C Land FO Profile WIDD 04 Contam rwy 4 mm standing water X-W OK HOSBA1C dep AP in at 200ft ENG SVR Damage L on cleanup Return to WIDD due contam rwy, LPA E03 (flap 30) Automatic GA due no visual WIDD Closed Divert to WSSS WX improves wet rwy Hold at NYLON Reset non-normal checklist for ENG SVR Damage L run checklist for F20 Manually flown ILS from before LOC intercept Cleared for RNAV WSSS 20C Manual GA due no visual WX improves wet runway Reset non-normal checklist for Eng SVR Damage L run checklist for F20 Manually flown RNAV WSSS 20C Land Depress Same as CA Profile EGPWS Same as CA Profile No traps Depress FL 350 AFT CARGO DOOR EICAS Then: CABIN ALT EICAS WARNING RAPID DESC to FL100 End after running CABIN ALT CHECKLIST EGPWS 4000 ft near WSSS ATC commands descent to 1500, expedite SPD BRK EXT, FLCH 1500, Recover on EGPWS WARNING
2 P3#Jan#2016# Finally#giving#back#to#the#good#folk#who#post#their#experiences#here,#below# are#observations#from#my#p3#yesterday,#all#comments#are#personal#opinion# only#and#may#not#be#best#practice#or#even#correct#for#that#matter,#but#its# nice#to#have#a#heads#up.## BRIEF: DiscussiononContaminatedRWYperformance,includingthefactthatevenwith a NODATA FieldontheRTOWthatA/Bselectioncanbeused,bepractical. ReviewoftheproceduretopulldatafromFCOM2 NOTEthismaybeanoccasionwhereF30OEIapproachisbeneFicialtoprovide lesslandingdistance,providedappclbrequirementsmet(theyarehere) WeelectedtouseF20andA/B4asA/B3willexitE10,wereasonedratherplan E10atalowertaxi/exitspeed. QUESTIONS: Newformat,notmanyquestionscomparedtopreviously,afewfromours; Actionsiflostdirectionalcontrolontouchdowncontamrwywith asymmetricthrust(includestowreverse,regaincenterline,redeploy reverse) WhatisthecrosswindlimitforTakeOffonrwycontamby (RefertoQRHtable,answernotneeded!) CanyouFlyCat2ILSwithonlyoneFD? (Onceagain,answernotneededbutwillbeinDDG) TheSBYILSTransmitterisU/S,canyouFlyaCAT3Bapproach (HavetoreferAERADGENapproachsectionforequipmentdowngrade, actualanswerwasnotrequired) Indicationsoflongterminterference (Theamberlinethrougheffectedmode,AUTOPILOTeicasetc) AFDSLimitations ActionsifLOCorGSamberandFlashingbelowalertheight (Ifnotvisual,GA) VariouspicsdepictingA/Caboveandbelow1000ftaalwithregardto ApproachBanrequirements. SIM:# Weatherasadvertised,A/CpositionedattheHOLDPointE1forRWY20CSIN, StopBaron.Visgivenas200m,ILSusedforlineupandretainedtoassist intheeventofrtolowvis.reviewlvoqrh LVOsoAPinat200ftaalasnormal,asA/Cacceleratesat2000ft(referPORT PAGE),justafterFlaps1calledfor,largebangandvibrationwithThrust
3 AsymCompeicas,followedbysomemorebangsandanOvertempingL eng,briefdiscussionof enginefailing theneicasmessageengfaill, PMcallsandPFacknowledgewithwith Check,SBY thenmakesurethe A/CisFlyinglikeitissupposedto,iespeedstillincreasingandnose lowering,apstillengagedandtherudderisinasuitableposition,then call ConFirmthefailure andcontinueasperfctmwithseveredamage confirmedbyengfailindicationsaccompaniedbycontinuedvibration. NBinthe300SIM,afterselectionofFlaps1,CLBthrustwassetasprogrammed, theacisextremelyslowtoaccelerateat+32degreesandrelativelyheavy, IelectedtoreeselectTOGAformorethrusttoassistwiththecleanup, reselectedlnavhoweverwhilstithinkweshouldseetogaasthethrust limit,wewerestillseeingclbandwerenotgettingalloftheavailable thrust,sotriedreselectingandsamesame,withnochange,needtolookit upmethinks.mightbealackoftechknowledge! CleanupA/Candrunthememoryitemsatthesametime,donotholdoneto completetheother. AtA/Cclean,youaretrackingtoSASGAandthe4000ftlookstight,FMC unable nextalt messagedisplays.whenthememitemswerecompleteanda/c clean,wechosetomakeapancall(nbopsaspecificallysaysanexample ofwhentomakeamaydaycallincludeenginefailurewithseveredamage howeverthea/cwasflyingokandsecuredsoweelectedtopan), includeunable4000soremovealtcontrol.(nbcleanspeedis227kts 300simsothe230maxnotanissue,maybefortheER)
4 FollowingPANcall,continuedonSID,ranlENGSEVDAMSEPCKL,TACCKL, revieweicas,selectfmcengout>exec(personalopinionistomentionyou havespeedwindowopenbeforeexecutingasifbelowobstacleclearanceitmay selectahigherclimbspeedthanminclean,that snotgood),andnewfcom3 proceduresuggestsnowisthetimetotakeantiiceautoifonfort/o,thenato ckl. GetWX,nowCAT2350m/200m/200msoadviseATCplanonthat,mentionyou wouldinitiatethealertphasewithismtoflightdeckx2,sendiocalert messagethenmakepa. NB:wewereunabletoloadanapproachfromthereturn/arrivalsLSK1RSINon thedeparpagesohadtosetupasadiversion,rtepageoverwritedestoralt page>divertnow,thenils20cwasselectable. Brief,increviewLVOQRH,DESCandLDGCKLs FullyautomaticCAT2approach,NBwithTACinop,PFlooksafterruddertrim until1500ft,thenbepreparedforchangeatfirstlatorvertmodechangeorlevel offabove400ftinmap.
5 NBMaybeunablethe1000ftESLUXineventofMAPsoATCadvisedandwewere givenineventofmapnoaltrequirementateslux. Vectoredtoa3000ftinterceptjustbeforeELBEB,GAat600ftduelocfail,accelat 1000ftusingspdinterveneandselectFLCHwhenA/Ccleanandatminclean speedtoactivateconthrust.aftertakeoffscompletedandadvisedatcequip failure,theysaidsinnowclosed,stateintentions,sogetwxbatam,as advertisedwithils04onoffer,acceptandonceagainmentionyouwouldadvise ATC,ISM,Pax.NoteQNHchange. InthemeantimeweareclearedintotheholdasperMAP,VTKwasnot autotuningsomanuallytunedtoproviderawdata,max230kts,callentering. SetupforILS04BATAM,usingdiversiontechniqueasdiscussed,CAUTION! BesuretoexecuteallmodiFicationsbycheckinglegspageFirst,welostthehold afterthediversionwasselected,anapproachenteredandithinkpossibly
6 depar6rcfincptmayhavebeenexecuted,ifthelegspagehadofbeenchecked Firstyouwouldseetheholdisnotshownontoplinesoflegspage.Noproblem, directtoexomoandreeentertheholdpronto!andrawdatastilltherefor someguidance.
7 Brief,DESCandLDGCKLsthenVectorsto2500fttojointheILS04duringwhich wereceivedthefuelimbckl,weacknowledgedthemessage,didalogiccheck, andcancelledforreviewineventofmapaswewereinterceptinglocatthis point.vectorscontinueforamanuallyflown,approachtoamanualmapusing manualthrust.youareresponsibleforruddertrim,andthrustwhichaddstothe workloadforthisapproach,notezeroingtheruddertrimforapproachis optionalbutshouldbedoneby500ftifplanned,personallyiset3.5unitsand leaveitalonetoassistwiththemap, PreviousPCsallowedforAPreeselectionabove200ftinMAPoffaOEImanual approach,howevernotthecaseforthisexercise,rememberthethrustincrease isfairlyconstantuntil85%whenalotmorerudderinputisrequiredtokeep straight.notetheelevationatbatamsowaitfor1000ftra(orthewhitevert lineonrightsideofpfd)givenclearancetoclimbstraightahead3500ft,sohdg selectbeforetheturnstartsinlnav. Atclean,calledfortheATOCKLbutFUELIMBCKLwasonscreensoheldATOs andranthenonnormalfirst,weacknowledgedtheinfoonpagetwodesignedto troubleshootforaleakwhichwithanotherquicklogiccheckweagreedwedid nothavesocontinuedpastthispageveryquicklytoactionthecrossfeed component,thenrantheatocklthendidaneicasreview. ATCadviseBATAMnowclosedandvectorsforRNAV20C(noteQNHchange again) AnotherdiversioninFMbacktoSINandapproachnowselectable,putRWY rangeringsandtheff2nmrangeringtoaidwithconfigandcallsetc.
8 BrieftoincludeRNAVconsiderations,reviewQRHforpreapproachcriteriaand VERTRNPentryprocedure.AllcarriedoutonPROGPage4.Notewenolonger needtogoaroundforagpswarninghoweverqrhinsimwasnotupdated. Vectorsdownwindthencleareddescwhenready2000ftdirecttoVABRI,from VABRIclearedRNAV20C. Autoapproachtoamanuallandingwithautothrust.GetintoVNAVatthe appropriatetimeandwithclearanceto2000ftitsoktosetanytimeyouwantin thiscase,alsocannotacceptdirecttoffbutoktoifinthisscenario. ApproachingVILEVPM ApproachingGlidePath,PFmakesurevalidlegsand altitudeinlargefont,invnavpath,thensetmda,lookforbottomofdescentarc tomeetmdapointonnd. AtsomepointaftercrossingFFandwhenmorethan300belowMAPALT (prettymuchstraightawayinthiscase)pfsetsmapaltinmcpandpmcalls FF_,ALTchecks,MAPset APcanstayinafterminimato200ftifyouchoose,andthereisavalidRWY WPT20CsocankeepFDson.Wewerevisualataround600ftsotookAPoutsoon aftertogetthefeel,basicallywelllinedupalreadywithcenterlinebutrateof descentquitehigh( inthe300)dueheavyweightsoworthabrief andpayextraattentiontothisinthevisualsegment. Bringtoastopontherunway. That sit TRAINING: RepostoFL350foreicasAFTCARGODOOR,followedsoonafterbyexplosive decompression. Standardmemoryitemsandlookedatinradarenvironmentlike50nmfromSIN maynotbenecessarytoturnoffairwayifyouareawareoftraffic,wechoseto maintainspeedasopposedtoaccelerateduedoorissue,alsolookedatlowering geartoincreaserateofdescent,although Gearisnotnormallyloweredforan emergencydescent doesntmeanitisn tagoodideaifyouneedalargespeed
9 reductiontolimitloadsandneedtodescfrom350to10,000ft,ofcoursenotsuch agoodideaifovery1andonlydesctofl230. AlsodiscoveredthereisabuiltinGearExtendSpeedprotection.Basicallyifthe gearisselecteddownatanyspeed,theattitudewillchangetolimitthespeedto VLE. REPOS: OverMalaysianpeninsulaat4000ftgivendescto1500expediteandtoldto recoveratfirstcaution. WithTERRnotselected,at CAUTIONTERRAIN theterrdisplaysandwesaw solidyellowaheadsopressedalthold,discussedwearenothappywithposso set7000inmcpandselflchadvisedatc. SecondwasrecoveratWARNING,standardMEMitems. FOPROFILEasadvertisedwiththeenginefailurecomingat2000ft,acceleration beganat1000ftsosomewherejustbeforeselectingflapsup,watchspeed doesn tcontinueaccelto250ktsasprogrammed.ilsbatam04autogaduenil sighting,ils20cgivenfromthenylonholdganilsightingmanflownwithman thrusttogathenvectorsforrnav20casprevious. TRAININGitemsrepeatforFO
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