NFPA TECHNICAL COMMITTEE FOR Special Operations Clothing and Equipment

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1 NFPA TECHNICAL COMMITTEE FOR Special Operations Clothing and Equipment Hilton Hotel Marina Ft. Lauderdale, FL April 29-30, 2014 Agenda 1. Call to order at 8:00am April 29th 2. Introductions 3. Opening remarks - Chair, Jeremy Metz 4. Review and approval of minutes from previous meeting 5. NFPA Staff Liaison report - Chris Farrell 6. NFPA 1953 Second Draft a. Task Group Report Jim Murray b. Act on public comments c. Act on correlating committee notes 7. Reports a. NFPA 1983 reorganization concept- Jim Frank 8. New business d. NFPA 1983 F 2016 revision cycle breakout session e. NFPA 1858 status Staff Liaison Chris Farrell 9. Other items 10. Next meeting 11. Adjourn, no later than 5:00pm April 30th

2 Meeting Minutes December, 2013 NFPA Special Operations Clothing and Equipment Technical Committee Meeting San Diego, CA Item Description 1 Meeting called to order 2 Introduction of members and guests: Lehtonen, Karen (Interim Chair) Corrado, Steven (Acting Secretary) Arrington, Joseph Dacey, Paul Frank, James Haskell, William Hess, Diane Horn, Gavin Howard, Thomas Hudson, Steve Metz, Jeremy Reall, Jack Stinton, Robert Klaren, Kim Mignogno, Craig Murray, James Saito, Jon Farrell, Chris (NFPA Staff) Guests: Brads, Jamey (SPEC Rescue) Drewniak, John (Aqua Lung) James, Chris P. (UL) Nystrom, Ulf (Ansell Protective Solutions) Ortins, Faith (DUI) 3 Chairman remarks: Karen Lehtonen 4 Approval of minutes of last meeting 5 Turnover of NFPA Staff Liaison from Dave Trebisacci to Chris Farrell 6 NFPA Staff presentation: a. General NFPA information b. New NFPA standards process c. Legal info patents; antitrust; activities disapproved by the courts d. NFPA Doc Info Pages

3 7 TCC Report Bill Haskell 8 Status of Technical Committee Chair 9 NFPA 1952 Second Revisions and Disposition of Public Comments 10 NFPA 1983 SCAM Document Technical committee decided to move forward with draft and voted to request a Fall 2017 cycle 11 NFPA 1983 Since NFPA 1983 is becoming cumbersome, a task group was formed to: a. Review NFPA manual of style b. Re-organize Chapters 5, 6, 7, and 8 without adding new language or requirements Chair Jim Frank Members Steve Hudson, Steve Corrado, Greg Gould, Gavin Horn, Jeremy Metz, Beverly Stutts 12 NFPA 1953 New Test Verification. Verification of the Hood to Breathing System Seal Test and Exhaust Valve Inward Leakage Test to be coordinated by Jim Murray and tests to occur at UL. UL to provide back a video of the test and any recommended language changes. 13 NFPA 1953 Second Revisions and Disposition of Public Comments suspended to allow time to adequately address public and committee comments and revisions. The Technical Committee requests the NFPA Standards Council to place NFPA 1953 into the Annual 2015 Cycle. 14 Dive Task Group Assignments: a. Complete language revision for Chapter 7 and 8 performance test methods. b. Finalize definitions and Annex language for Moderate and Severe Contaminated Water c. Complete Validation of new test methods. d. Complete performance and test language for exhaust valve penetration testing. e. Set up task web-based meetings using the NFPA Adobe-Connect system. Meetings will start Q and will occur every two weeks. Meeting invites will go to the entire Technical Committee although attendance is optional. 15 NFPA 1953 Editorial Task Group: Group to review NFPA 1953 for consistency and format of language. Members K. Lehtonen, S. Corrado.

4 16 Future Meetings: Dates: April 29, with follow up conference call if necessary on May 6 11:00 15:00 EST. Locations KEY WEST, FL or somewhere else. 17 Other items: None 18 Motion to adjourn Respectfully submitted by Steven Corrado, Acting Secretary

5 Page 1 of 54 Public Comment No. 42-NFPA [ Global Input ] The viral penetration criteria and test method established in NFPA 1952 should be applied to these products given the potential for encountering biological hazards. Pathogenic bacteria and other microorganisms pose a serious threat to divers in contaminated water and should be included as a performance evaluation for these products. Related Item Correlating Committee Note No. 10-NFPA [] Submitter Full Name: Jeffrey Stull Organization: International Personnel Protection, Inc. Submittal Date: Fri Nov 15 16:52:51 EST 2013

6 Page 2 of 54 Public Comment No. 11-NFPA [ New Section after ] Contaminated Water - A body of water that potentially contains a chemical or biological substance that poses a chronic or acute health risk to exposed personnel. Additional information added to clarify document by Correlating Committee Task Group Submitter Full Name: James Murray Organization: Fire Department City of New Yo Submittal Date: Wed Nov 13 22:37:32 EST 2013

7 Page 3 of 54 Public Comment No. 2-NFPA [ Section No ] * Moderate Contamination. - Delete entire section on multiple levels Water that is contaminated but at a level not to exceed the following contaminant levels : 100% JP-8, 100% diesel fuel (Liquid F), and 100% high octane fuel (Liquid C) for an exposure of 5 minutes; and 10% sulfuric acid, 10% sodium hydroxide, 10% isopropanol, and 1.5% tributyltin for an exposure of 60 minutes. The multiple levels do not make sense. Although surface hazmat allows for different levels of protection there is equipment available to determine eactly what chemicals they are dealing with and at what concentrations. In diving there is no equipment available to determine on scene what is in the water and at what concentration. To propose a dive that only lasts for 5 minutes is near impossible particulary where most of the time they are dealing in zero visability conditions. This dual levels with in one standard will only lead to confusion with the end users and the wrong equipment being used. I would suggest every public safety dive team has the chance to respond to a scene that would far go beyond the "Moderate Contamination" for more than 5 minutes. I do not understand the logic as to why one would want to dumb down the level of protection for the end user. Submitter Full Name: John Drewniak Organization: Aqua Lung America Submittal Date: Sun Oct 13 08:48:59 EDT 2013

8 Page 4 of 54 Public Comment No. 21-NFPA [ Section No ] * Moderate Contamination. Water that is contaminated but at a level not to exceed the following contaminant levels : 100% JP-8, 100% diesel fuel (Liquid F), and 100% high octane fuel (Liquid C) for an exposure of 5 minutes; and 10% sulfuric acid, 10% sodium hydroxide, 10% isopropanol, and 1.5% tributyltin for an exposure of 60 minutes. CC NOTE: The following CC Note No. 6 appeared in the First Draft Report as First Revision No. 47. The Correlating Committee notes that the definitions for moderate and severe contamination do not appear to be risk-based and may not provide an adequate distinction for first responders to choose the appropriate level of performance. Related Item First Revision No. 47-NFPA [New Section after ] Submitter Full CC on FAE-AAC Name: CC on Fire and Emergency Services Protective Clothing and Organization: Equipment Submittal Date: Fri Nov 15 12:33:12 EST 2013

9 Page 5 of 54 Public Comment No. 31-NFPA [ Section No ] * Moderate Contamination. Water that is contaminated but at a level not to exceed the following contaminant levels : 100% JP-8, 100% diesel fuel (Liquid F), and 100% high octane fuel (Liquid C) for an exposure of 5 minutes; and 10% sulfuric acid, 10% sodium hydroxide, 10% isopropanol, and 1.5% tributyltin for an exposure of 60 minutes. End users do not have the ability to judge or measure their exposure circumstances. The current definition is not risk based and a single level of performance should be established. Related Item Correlating Committee Note No. 6-NFPA [] Submitter Full Name: Jeffrey Stull Organization: International Personnel Protection, Inc. Submittal Date: Fri Nov 15 16:13:59 EST 2013

10 Page 6 of 54 Public Comment No. 22-NFPA [ Section No ] * Severe Contamination. Water that is contaminated but at a level not to exceed the following contaminant levels for an exposure of 60 minutes: 100% JP-8, 100% diesel fuel (Liquid F), 100% high octane fuel (Liquid C), 50% sulfuric acid, 50% sodium hydroxide, 100% isopropanol, and 15% tributyltin. CC NOTE: The following CC Note No. 7 appeared in the First Draft Report as First Revision No. 48. The Correlating Committee notes that the definitions for moderate and severe contamination do not appear to be risk-based and may not provide an adequate distinction for first responders to choose the appropriate level of performance. Related Item First Revision No. 48-NFPA [New Section after ] Submitter Full CC on FAE-AAC Name: CC on Fire and Emergency Services Protective Clothing and Organization: Equipment Submittal Date: Fri Nov 15 12:34:45 EST 2013

11 Page 7 of 54 Public Comment No. 3-NFPA [ Section No ] * Severe Contamination. This should be the only level of protection Water that is contaminated but at a level not to exceed the following contaminant levels for an exposure of 60 minutes: 100% JP-8, 100% diesel fuel (Liquid F), 100% high octane fuel (Liquid C), 50% sulfuric acid, 50% sodium hydroxide, 100% isopropanol, and 15% tributyltin. The multiple levels do not make sense. Although surface hazmat allows for different levels of protection there is equipment available to determine eactly what chemicals they are dealing with and at what concentrations. In diving there is no equipment available to determine on scene what is in the water and at what concentration. To propose a dive that only lasts for 5 minutes is near impossible particulary where most of the time they are dealing in zero visability conditions. This dual levels with in one standard will only lead to confusion with the end users and the wrong equipment being used. I would suggest every public safety dive team has the chance to respond to a scene that would far go beyond the "Moderate Contamination" for more than 5 minutes. I do not understand the logic as to why one would want to dumb down the level of protection for the end user. Submitter Full Name: John Drewniak Organization: Aqua Lung America Submittal Date: Sun Oct 13 09:12:53 EDT 2013

12 Page 8 of 54 Public Comment No. 32-NFPA [ Section No ] * Severe Contamination. Water that is contaminated but at a level not to exceed the following contaminant levels for an exposure of 60 minutes: 100% JP-8, 100% diesel fuel (Liquid F), 100% high octane fuel (Liquid C), 50% sulfuric acid, 50% sodium hydroxide, 100% isopropanol, and 15% tributyltin. End users have no real means for determining the level of contamination in advance. The definitions do not allow a risk assessment. A single level of performance should be specified. Related Item Correlating Committee Note No. 6-NFPA [] Submitter Full Name: Jeffrey Stull Organization: International Personnel Protection, Inc. Submittal Date: Fri Nov 15 16:18:49 EST 2013

13 Page 9 of 54 Public Comment No. 10-NFPA [ Section No [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ] All products that are labeled as being compliant with this standard shall undergo recertification on an annual basis. This recertification shall include the following: (1) Inspection and evaluation to all design requirements as required by the standard on all manufacturer models and components (2) Testing to all performance requirements as specified in Table on all manufacturer models and components within the following protocol: (a) (b) (c) (d) Where a test method incorporates testing both before and after the laundering preconditioning specified in and the test generates quantitative results, recertification testing shall be limited to the conditioning that yielded the worst-case test result during the initial certification for the model or component. Where a test method incorporates testing both before and after the laundering preconditioning specified in and the test generates nonquantitative results, recertifications shall be limited to a single conditioning procedure in any given year. Subsequent annual recertification shall cycle through the remaining conditioning procedure to ensure that all required conditionings are included over time. Where a test method requires the testing of three specimens, a minimum of one specimen shall be tested for annual certification. Where a test method requires the testing of five or more specimens, a minimum of two specimens shall be tested for annual certification. Table Recertification Schedule

14 Page 10 of 54 Year Product Test Frequency Label Durability and Labels Initial certification only Legibility Test Hardware Corrosion Resistance Initial certification only Air Retention Test Every year Exhaust Valve Chemical Permeation TBD T B D Resistance Inlet Valve Test TBD TBD T B D Material Material Material Material Material Material Burst Strength Test Puncture Propagation Tear Resistance Test Chemical Permeation Resistance Test Viral Penetration Resistance Test Cut Resistance Test Abrasion Resistance Test Initial certification and year 5 Initial certification only Initial certification (all chemicals); every year (certain chemicals, 2 per year) Initial certification only Initial certification and year 3 Initial certification and year 4 Zipper Strength Test Initial certification only Zipper Resistance to Twist of Pull and Slider Test Opening and Closing of Zippers Test Zipper Point Breaking Strength Test Chemical Permeation Resistance Test Initial certification only Initial certification only Initial certification only Initial certification (all chemicals); every year (certain chemicals, 2 per year) Retroreflectivity Test Initial certification only Seams Seams Seams Bootie Material Bootie Material Seam Breaking Strength Test Chemical Permeation Resistance Test Viral Penetration Resistance Test Burst Strength Test Puncture Propagation Tear Resistance Test Every year Initial certification (all chemicals); every year (certain chemicals, 2 per year) Initial certification only Initial certification and year 5 Initial certification only

15 Page 11 of 54 Year Product Test Frequency Bootie Material Bootie Material Bootie Material Bootie Material Bootie Seams Bootie Seams Bootie Seams Attached Dry Suit Boot Materials Attached Dry Suit Boot Materials Attached Dry Suit Boot Materials Attached Dry Suit Boot Materials Hood Material Hood Material Hood Material Hood Material Hood Material Hood Material Hood Seams Chemical Permeation Resistance Test Viral Penetration Resistance Test Cut Resistance Test Abrasion Resistance Test Seam Breaking Strength Chemical Permeation Resistance Test Viral Penetration Resistance Test Burst Strength Test Puncture Propagation Tear Resistance Test Cut Resistance Test Abrasion Resistance Test Burst Strength Test Puncture Propagation Tear Resistance Test Chemical Permeation Resistance Test Viral Penetration Resistance Test Cut Resistance Test Abrasion Resistance Test Seam Breaking Strength Initial certification (all chemicals); every year (certain chemicals, 2 per year) Initial certification only Initial certification and year 3 Initial certification and year 4 Every year Initial certification (all chemicals); every year (certain chemicals, 2 per year) Initial certification only Initial certification and year 5 Initial certification only Initial certification and year 3 Initial certification and year 4 Initial certification and year 5 Initial certification only Initial certification (all chemicals); every year (certain chemicals, 2 per year) Initial certification only Initial certification and year 3 Initial certification and year 4 Every year

16 Page 12 of 54 Year Product Test Frequency Hood Seams Hood Seams Chemical Permeation Resistance Test Viral Penetration Resistance Test Glove Cut Resistance Test Glove Glove Puncture Resistance Test Abrasion Resistance Test Two Initial certification (all chemicals); every year (certain chemicals, 2 per year) Initial certification only Initial certification and year 2 Initial certification and year 3 Initial certification and year 4 Glove Torque Test Initial certification only Glove Glove Footwear Uppers Footwear Uppers Footwear Uppers Footwear Soles Footwear Soles Footwear Soles Boot Materials Boot Seams Footwear Materials Chemical Permeation Resistance Test Viral Penetration Resistance Abrasion Resistance Test Two Cut Resistance Puncture Resistance Test Abrasion Resistance Test Two Puncture Resistance Test Initial certification (all chemicals); every year (certain chemicals, 2 per year) Initial certification only Initial certification and year 4 Initial certification and year 2 Initial certification and year 3 Initial certification and year 4 Initial certification and year 3 Slip Resistance Initial certification only Chemical Permeation Resistance Test Chemical Permeation Resistance Test Chemical Permeation Resistance Test Initial certification (all chemicals); every year (certain chemicals, 2 per year) Initial certification (all chemicals); every year (certain chemicals, 2 per year) Initial certification (all chemicals); every year (certain chemicals, 2 per year)

17 Page 13 of 54 Year Product Test Frequency Footwear Materials Footwear Seams Overboot Overboot Uppers Overboot Uppers Overboot Uppers Overboot Soles Overboot Soles Overboot Soles Viral Penetration Resistance Test Chemical Permeation Resistance Test Footwear Drainage Test Abrasion Resistance Test Two Cut Resistance Test Puncture Resistance Test Abrasion Resistance Test Two Puncture Resistance Test Initial certification only Initial certification (all chemicals); every year (certain chemicals, 2 per year) Initial certification only Initial certification and year 2 Initial certification and year 3 Initial certification and year 4 Initial certification and year 2 Initial certification and year 3 Slip Resistance Initial certification only Add Hood to mask Seal Test to be tested for Initial certification and Year 4 Additional information added to clarify document by Correlating Committee Task Group Submitter Full Name: James Murray Organization: Fire Department City of New Yo Submittal Date: Wed Nov 13 22:35:09 EST 2013

18 Page 14 of 54 Public Comment No. 8-NFPA [ Section No ] Hood for use with a full-face mask may be an integral part of the suit body or attached by a separate mechanical means. Where hoods are provided, the hood shall provide protection to at least the head and neck. The hood must provide a means for sealing the mask to the hood in the area of the divers head. Add sentence- " It is highly recommended that a positive pressure full face mask, similar to an SCBA mask, is used in order to minimize the risk of exposure to vapor contamination on the water's surface. Additional information added to clarify document by Correlating Committee Task Group Submitter Full Name: James Murray Organization: Fire Department City of New Yo Submittal Date: Wed Nov 13 22:30:25 EST 2013

19 Page 15 of 54 Public Comment No. 9-NFPA [ Section No ] Diving helmet interface may be an integral part of the suit body or attached by a separate mechanical means. In order to minimize the possibility of leakage between the breathing system and the hood, a mechanical connection between the hood and breathing system is required if the system is to be used in severe contamination. Additional information added to clarify document by Correlating Committee Task Group Submitter Full Name: James Murray Organization: Fire Department City of New Yo Submittal Date: Wed Nov 13 22:33:08 EST 2013

20 Page 16 of 54 Public Comment No. 6-NFPA [ New Section after ] The interface between the full face mask and drysuit hood will be tested for air retention and watertight integrity. Any moisture leakage will be considered a failure of the test. Additional information added to clarify document by Correlating Committee Task Group Submitter Full Name: James Murray Organization: Fire Department City of New Yo Submittal Date: Wed Nov 13 22:18:08 EST 2013

21 Page 17 of 54 Public Comment No. 7-NFPA [ New Section after ] When testing the drysuit ensemble for compatibility with the severe contamination level, the mechanical interface between the breathing system and drysuit hood will be tested for air retention and watertight integrity. Any moisture leakage will be considered a failure of the test. Additional information added to clarify document by Correlating Committee Task Group Submitter Full Name: James Murray Organization: Fire Department City of New Yo Submittal Date: Wed Nov 13 22:25:09 EST 2013

22 Page 18 of 54 Public Comment No. 23-NFPA [ Section No ] Protective dry suit materials and seams, dry suit bootie material and seams, exhaust valve diaphragm material, and dry suit hood materials and seams shall be tested for liquid permeation resistance after flexing and abrading as specified in Section8.8, and shall not exhibit a breakthrough detection time of 1 hour or less for the following list of industrial chemicals: Severe Contamination Level (1) JP-8 (ASTM Oil #1)...100% (2) Sulfuric Acid...50% (3) Diesel/heating oil (ISO Liquid F)...100% (4) High- Octane Fuel (ISO Liquid C)...100% (5) Tributyltin...15% (6) Sodium Hydroxide...50% (7) Isopropanol...100% Protective dry suit materials and seams, dry suit bootie material and seams, exhaust valve diaphragm material, and dry suit hood materials and seams shall be tested for liquid permeation resistance after flexing and abrading as specified in Section 8.8 and shall be tested for a minimum of 1 hour to determine breakthough time as follows: (1) Moderate Contamination Level Min. Time for Passing Std. (2) JP-8 (ASTM Oil #1) 5 minutes (3) Sulfuric Acid (10%) 60 minutes (4) Diesel/heating oil (ISO Liquid F) 5 minutes (5) High-Octane Fuel (ISO Liquid C) 5 minutes (6) Tributyltin (1.5%) 60 minutes (7) Sodium Hydroxide (10%) 60 minutes (8) Isopropanol (10%) 60 minutes CC NOTE: The following CC Note No. 1 appeared in the First Draft Report as First Revision No. 12, and also related to Public Input No. 21. The Correlating Committee notes that the list of chemicals in paragraph may not be sufficient to assess the performance of the ensemble against the range of hazards that could be encountered; some chemicals may not be testable at the concentrations indicated. Related Item First Revision No. 12-NFPA [Section No ] Public Input No. 21-NFPA [Section No ]

23 Page 19 of 54 Submitter Full CC on FAE-AAC Name: CC on Fire and Emergency Services Protective Clothing and Organization: Equipment Submittal Date: Fri Nov 15 12:36:22 EST 2013

24 Page 20 of 54 Public Comment No. 33-NFPA [ Section No [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ] Protective dry suit materials and seams, dry suit bootie material and seams, exhaust valve diaphragm material, and dry suit hood materials and seams shall be tested for liquid permeation resistance after flexing and abrading as specified in Section8.8, and shall not exhibit a breakthrough detection time of 1 hour or less the average cumulative permeation in 1 hour shall not exceed 6.0 μg/cm 2 for the following list of industrial chemicals: Severe Contamination Level (1) JP-8 (ASTM Oil #1)...100% (2) Sulfuric Acid...50% 20% (3) Diesel/heating oil (ISO Liquid F)...100% (4) High- Octane Fuel (ISO Liquid C)...100% (5) Tributyltin...15% (6) Sodium Hydroxide... 50% (7) 2 0% (8) Isopropanol...100% 20% A cumulative permeation test approach should be used that is consistent with other standards in the project. One of the chemicals is relatively insoluble in water and should either be deleted or removed from the. Those chemicals that are water soluble or miscible in water should be tested at a lower concentration. Related Item Correlating Committee Note No. 1-NFPA [] Submitter Full Name: Jeffrey Stull Organization: International Personnel Protection, Inc. Submittal Date: Fri Nov 15 16:32:23 EST 2013

25 Page 21 of 54 Public Comment No. 4-NFPA [ Section No [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ] Protective dry suit materials and seams, dry suit bootie material and seams, exhaust valve diaphragm material, and dry suit hood materials and seams shall be tested for liquid permeation resistance after flexing and abrading as specified in Section8.8, and shall not exhibit a breakthrough detection time of 1 hour or less for the following list of industrial chemicals: THIS SHOULD BE THE ONLY LEVEL OF PROTECTION Severe Contamination Level (1) JP-8 (ASTM Oil #1)...100% (2) Sulfuric Acid...50% (3) Diesel/heating oil (ISO Liquid F)...100% (4) High- Octane Fuel (ISO Liquid C)...100% (5) Tributyltin...15% (6) Sodium Hydroxide...50% (7) Isopropanol...100% The multiple levels do not make sense. Although surface hazmat allows for different levels of protection there is equipment available to determine eactly what chemicals they are dealing with and at what concentrations. In diving there is no equipment available to determine on scene what is in the water and at what concentration. To propose a dive that only lasts for 5 minutes is near impossible particulary where most of the time they are dealing in zero visability conditions. This dual levels with in one standard will only lead to confusion with the end users and the wrong equipment being used. I would suggest every public safety dive team has the chance to respond to a scene that would far go beyond the "Moderate Contamination" for more than 5 minutes. I do not understand the logic as to why one would want to dumb down the level of protection for the end user. Submitter Full Name: John Drewniak Organization: Aqua Lung America Submittal Date: Sun Oct 13 09:14:51 EDT 2013

26 Page 22 of 54 Public Comment No. 14-NFPA [ Section No ] Protective dry suit materials and seams, dry suit bootie material and seams, exhaust valve diaphragm material, and dry suit hood materials and seams shall be tested for liquid permeation resistance after flexing and abrading as specified in Section 8.8 and shall be tested for a minimum of 1 hour to determine breakthough time as follows: Moderate Contamination Level Min. Time for Passing Std. (1) JP-8 (ASTM Oil #1) 5 minutes (2) Sulfuric Acid (10%) 60 minutes (3) Diesel/heating oil (ISO Liquid F) 5 minutes (4) High-Octane Fuel (ISO Liquid C) 5 minutes (5) Tributyltin (1.5%) 60 minutes (6) Sodium Hydroxide (10%) 60 minutes (7) Isopropanol (10%) 60 minutes As part of Correlating Committee Task Group, correcting typos Submitter Full Name: James Murray Organization: Fire Department City of New Yo Submittal Date: Wed Nov 13 23:35:38 EST 2013

27 Page 23 of 54 Public Comment No. 38-NFPA [ Section No ] Protective dry suit materials and seams, dry suit bootie material and seams, exhaust valve diaphragm material, and dry suit hood materials and seams shall be tested for liquid permeation resistance after flexing and abrading as specified in Section 8.8 and shall be tested for a minimum of 1 hour to determine breakthough time as follows: (1) Moderate Contamination Level Min. Time for Passing Std. (2) JP-8 (ASTM Oil #1) 5 minutes (3) Sulfuric Acid (10%) 60 minutes (4) Diesel/heating oil (ISO Liquid F) 5 minutes (5) High-Octane Fuel (ISO Liquid C) 5 minutes (6) Tributyltin (1.5%) 60 minutes (7) Sodium Hydroxide (10%) 60 minutes (8) Isopropanol (10%) 60 minutes A cumulative permeation test approach should be used that is consistent with other standards in the project. One of the chemicals is relatively insoluble in water and should either be deleted or removed from the. Those chemicals that are water soluble or miscible in water should be tested at a lower concentration. Related Item Correlating Committee Note No. 1-NFPA [] Submitter Full Name: Jeffrey Stull Organization: International Personnel Protection, Inc. Submittal Date: Fri Nov 15 16:44:56 EST 2013

28 Page 24 of 54 Public Comment No. 5-NFPA [ Section No ] Protective dry suit materials and seams, dry suit bootie material and seams, exhaust valve diaphragm material, and dry suit hood materials and seams shall be tested for liquid permeation resistance after flexing and abrading as specified in Section 8.8 and shall be tested for a minimum of 1 hour to determine breakthough time as follows: REMOVE THIS LOWER LEVEL OF PROTECTION (1) Moderate Contamination Level Min. Time for Passing Std. (2) JP-8 (ASTM Oil #1) 5 minutes (3) Sulfuric Acid (10%) 60 minutes (4) Diesel/heating oil (ISO Liquid F) 5 minutes (5) High-Octane Fuel (ISO Liquid C) 5 minutes (6) Tributyltin (1.5%) 60 minutes (7) Sodium Hydroxide (10%) 60 minutes (8) Isopropanol (10%) 60 minutes The multiple levels do not make sense. Although surface hazmat allows for different levels of protection there is equipment available to determine eactly what chemicals they are dealing with and at what concentrations. In diving there is no equipment available to determine on scene what is in the water and at what concentration. To propose a dive that only lasts for 5 minutes is near impossible particulary where most of the time they are dealing in zero visability conditions. This dual levels with in one standard will only lead to confusion with the end users and the wrong equipment being used. I would suggest every public safety dive team has the chance to respond to a scene that would far go beyond the "Moderate Contamination" for more than 5 minutes. I do not understand the logic as to why one would want to dumb down the level of protection for the end user. Submitter Full Name: John Drewniak Organization: Aqua Lung America Submittal Date: Sun Oct 13 09:16:34 EDT 2013

29 Page 25 of 54 Public Comment No. 24-NFPA [ Section No ] Zippers shall be tested for permeation resistance as specified in Section 8.8, and shall not exhibit a breakthrough detection time of 1 hour or less for the following list of industrial chemicals: (1) JP-8 (ASTM Oil #1)...100% (2) Sulfuric Acid...50% (3) Diesel/heating oil (ISO Liquid F)...100% (4) High- Octane Fuel (ISO Liquid C)...100% (5) Tributyltin...15% (6) Sodium Hydroxide...50% (7) Isopropanol...100% Zippers shall be tested for liquid permeation resistance after flexing and abrading as specified in Section 8.8 and shall be tested for a minimum of 1 hour to determine breakthough time as follows: (1) Moderate Contamination Level Min. Time for Passing Std. (2) JP-8 (ASTM Oil #1) 5 minutes (3) Sulfuric Acid (10%) 60 minutes (4) Diesel/heating oil (ISO Liquid F) 5 minutes (5) High-Octane Fuel (ISO Liquid C) 5 minutes (6) Tributyltin (1.5%) 60 minutes (7) Sodium Hydroxide (10%) 60 minutes (8) Isopropanol (10%) 60 minutes CC NOTE: The following CC Note No. 2 appeared in the First Draft Report as First Revision No. 13, and also related to Public Input No. 22. The Correlating Committee notes that the list of chemicals in new section may not be sufficient to assess the performance of the ensemble against the range of hazards that could be encountered; some chemicals may not be testable at the concentrations indicated. Also, the Correlating Committee requests the Technical Committee on Special Operations Protective Clothing and Equipment to provide evidence that zippers can be tested for permeation resistance. Related Item First Revision No. 13-NFPA [Section No ] Public Input No. 22-NFPA [Section No ]

30 Page 26 of 54 Submitter Full CC on FAE-AAC Name: CC on Fire and Emergency Services Protective Clothing and Organization: Equipment Submittal Date: Fri Nov 15 12:39:42 EST 2013

31 Page 27 of 54 Public Comment No. 40-NFPA [ Section No [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ] Zippers The tape used in zippers shall be tested for permeation resistance as specified in Section 8.8, and shall not exhibit a breakthrough detection time of the average cumulative permeation shall not exceed 6.0 μg/cm 2 in 1 hour or less for the following list of industrial chemicals: (1) JP-8 (ASTM Oil #1)...100% (2) Sulfuric Acid...50% 20% (3) Diesel/heating oil (ISO Liquid F)...100% (4) High- Octane Fuel (ISO Liquid C)...100% (5) Tributyltin...15% (6) Sodium Hydroxide... 50% (7) 20% (8) Isopropanol...100% A cumulative permeation test approach should be used that is consistent with other standards in the project. One of the chemicals is relatively insoluble in water and should either be deleted or removed from the. Those chemicals that are water soluble or miscible in water should be tested at a lower concentration. Related Item Correlating Committee Note No. 1-NFPA [] Submitter Full Name: Jeffrey Stull Organization: International Personnel Protection, Inc. Submittal Date: Fri Nov 15 16:47:09 EST 2013

32 Page 28 of 54 Public Comment No. 15-NFPA [ Section No ] Zippers shall be tested for liquid permeation resistance after flexing and abrading as specified in Section 8.8 and shall be tested for a minimum of 1 hour to determine breakthough time as follows: Moderate Contamination Level Min. Time for Passing Std. (1) JP-8 (ASTM Oil #1) 5 minutes (2) Sulfuric Acid (10%) 60 minutes (3) Diesel/heating oil (ISO Liquid F) 5 minutes (4) High-Octane Fuel (ISO Liquid C) 5 minutes (5) Tributyltin (1.5%) 60 minutes (6) Sodium Hydroxide (10%) 60 minutes (7) Isopropanol (10%) 60 minutes As part of Correlating Committee Task Group, correcting typos Submitter Full Name: James Murray Organization: Fire Department City of New Yo Submittal Date: Wed Nov 13 23:37:36 EST 2013

33 Page 29 of 54 Public Comment No. 39-NFPA [ Section No ] Zippers shall be tested for liquid permeation resistance after flexing and abrading as specified in Section 8.8 and shall be tested for a minimum of 1 hour to determine breakthough time as follows: (1) Moderate Contamination Level Min. Time for Passing Std. (2) JP-8 (ASTM Oil #1) 5 minutes (3) Sulfuric Acid (10%) 60 minutes (4) Diesel/heating oil (ISO Liquid F) 5 minutes (5) High-Octane Fuel (ISO Liquid C) 5 minutes (6) Tributyltin (1.5%) 60 minutes (7) Sodium Hydroxide (10%) 60 minutes (8) Isopropanol (10%) 60 minutes A cumulative permeation test approach should be used that is consistent with other standards in the project. One of the chemicals is relatively insoluble in water and should either be deleted or removed from the. Those chemicals that are water soluble or miscible in water should be tested at a lower concentration. Related Item Correlating Committee Note No. 1-NFPA [] Submitter Full Name: Jeffrey Stull Organization: International Personnel Protection, Inc. Submittal Date: Fri Nov 15 16:46:18 EST 2013

34 Page 30 of 54 Public Comment No. 16-NFPA [ Section No ] Protective dry suit glove materials and seams shall be tested for permeation resistance after flexing and abrading as specified in Section8.8, and shall not exhibit a breakthrough detection time of 1 hour or less for the following list of industrial chemicals: (1) JP-8 (ASTM Oil #1)...100% (2) Sulfuric Acid...50% (3) Diesel/heating oil (ISO Liquid F)...100% (4) High- Octane Fuel (ISO Liquid C)...100% (5) Tributyltin...15% (6) Sodium Hydroxide...50% (7) Isopropanol...100% Protective dry suit glove material and seams shall be tested for permeation resistance after flexing and abrading as specified in Section 8.8 and shall be tested for a minimum of 1 hour to determine breakthrough time as follows: Moderate Contamination Level Min. Time for Passing Std. (1) JP-8 (ASTM Oil #1) 5 minutes (2) Sulfuric Acid (10%) 60 minutes (3) Diesel/heating oil (ISO Liquid F) 5 minutes (4) High-Octane Fuel (ISO Liquid C) 5 minutes (5) Tributyltin (1.5%) 60 minutes (6) Sodium Hydroxide (10%) 60 minutes (7) Isopropanol (10%) 60 minutes As part of Correlating Committee Task Group, correcting typos Submitter Full Name: James Murray Organization: Fire Department City of New Yo Submittal Date: Wed Nov 13 23:45:27 EST 2013

35 Page 31 of 54 Public Comment No. 34-NFPA [ Section No ] Protective dry suit glove materials and seams shall be tested for permeation resistance after flexing and abrading as specified in Section8.8, and shall not exhibit a breakthrough detection time of 1 hour or less for the average cumulative permeation in 1 hour shall not exceed 6.0 μg/cm 2 for the following list of industrial chemicals: (1) JP-8 (ASTM Oil #1)...100% (2) Sulfuric Acid...50% 20% (3) Diesel/heating oil (ISO Liquid F)...100% (4) High- Octane Fuel (ISO Liquid C)...100% (5) Tributyltin...15% (6) Sodium Hydroxide... 50% (7) 20% (8) Isopropanol...100% (1) Moderate Contamination Level Min. Time for Passing Std. (2) JP-8 (ASTM Oil #1) 5 minutes (3) Sulfuric Acid (10%) 60 minutes (4) Diesel/heating oil (ISO Liquid F) 5 minutes (5) High-Octane Fuel (ISO Liquid C) 5 minutes (6) Tributyltin (1.5%) 60 minutes (7) Sodium Hydroxide (10%) 60 minutes (8) Isopropanol (10%) 60 minutes (1) 20% A cumulative permeation test approach should be used that is consistent with other standards in the project. One of the chemicals is relatively insoluble in water and should either be deleted or removed from the. Those chemicals that are water soluble or miscible in water should be tested at a lower concentration. Related Item Correlating Committee Note No. 1-NFPA []

36 Page 32 of 54 Submitter Full Name: Jeffrey Stull Organization: International Personnel Protection, Inc. Submittal Date: Fri Nov 15 16:37:32 EST 2013

37 Page 33 of 54 Public Comment No. 37-NFPA [ Section No [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ] Protective attached dry suit boot materials and seams shall be tested for permeation resistance after flexing and abrading as specified in Section8.8, and shall not exhibit a breakthrough detection time of the average cumulative shall not exceed 6.0 μg/cm 2 in 1 hour or less for the following list of industrial chemicals: (1) JP-8 (ASTM Oil #1)...100% (2) Sulfuric Acid...50% 20% (3) Diesel/heating oil (ISO Liquid F)...100% (4) High- Octane Fuel (ISO Liquid C)...100% (5) Tributyltin...15% (6) Sodium Hydroxide...50% 20% (7) Isopropanol...100% 20% A cumulative permeation test approach should be used that is consistent with other standards in the project. One of the chemicals is relatively insoluble in water and should either be deleted or removed from the. Those chemicals that are water soluble or miscible in water should be tested at a lower concentration. Related Item Correlating Committee Note No. 1-NFPA [] Submitter Full Name: Jeffrey Stull Organization: International Personnel Protection,Inc. Submittal Date: Fri Nov 15 16:42:33 EST 2013

38 Page 34 of 54 Public Comment No. 17-NFPA [ Section No ] Dry suit boot materials and seams shall be tested for liquid permeation resistance after flexing and abrading as specified in Section 8.8 and shall be tested for a minimum of 1 hour to determine breakthough time as follows: Moderate Contamination Level Min. Time for Passing Std. (1) JP-8 (ASTM Oil #1) 5 minutes (2) Sulfuric Acid (10%) 60 minutes (3) Diesel/heating oil (ISO Liquid F) 5 minutes (4) High-Octane Fuel (ISO Liquid C) 5 minutes (5) Tributyltin (1.5%) 60 minutes (6) Sodium Hydroxide (10%) 60 minutes (7) Isopropanol (10%) 60 minutes As part of Correlating Committee Task Group, correcting typos Submitter Full Name: James Murray Organization: Fire Department City of New Yo Submittal Date: Wed Nov 13 23:50:34 EST 2013

39 Page 35 of 54 Public Comment No. 35-NFPA [ Section No ] Dry suit boot materials and seams shall be tested for liquid permeation resistance after flexing and abrading as specified in Section 8.8 and shall be tested for a minimum of 1 hour to determine breakthough time as follows: (1) Moderate Contamination Level Min. Time for Passing Std. (2) JP-8 (ASTM Oil #1) 5 minutes (3) Sulfuric Acid (10%) 60 minutes (4) Diesel/heating oil (ISO Liquid F) 5 minutes (5) High-Octane Fuel (ISO Liquid C) 5 minutes (6) Tributyltin (1.5%) 60 minutes (7) Sodium Hydroxide (10%) 60 minutes (8) Isopropanol (10%) 60 minutes A cumulative permeation test approach should be used that is consistent with other standards in the project. One of the chemicals is relatively insoluble in water and should either be deleted or removed from the. Those chemicals that are water soluble or miscible in water should be tested at a lower concentration. Related Item Correlating Committee Note No. 4-NFPA [] Submitter Full Name: Jeffrey Stull Organization: International Personnel Protection, inc. Submittal Date: Fri Nov 15 16:40:54 EST 2013

40 Page 36 of 54 Public Comment No. 18-NFPA [ Section No ] Footwear materials shall be tested for liquid permeation resistance after flexing and abrading as specified in Section 8.8 and shall be tested for a minimum of 1 hour to determine breakthough time as follows: Moderate Contamination Level Min. Time for Passing Std. (1) JP-8 (ASTM Oil #1) 5 minutes (2) Sulfuric Acid (10%) 60 minutes (3) Diesel/heating oil (ISO Liquid F) 5 minutes (4) High-Octane Fuel (ISO Liquid C) 5 minutes (5) Tributyltin (1.5%) 60 minutes (6) Sodium Hydroxide (10%) 60 minutes (7) Isopropanol (10%) 60 minutes As part of Correlating Committee Task Group, correcting typos Submitter Full Name: James Murray Organization: Fire Department City of New Yo Submittal Date: Wed Nov 13 23:56:08 EST 2013

41 Page 37 of 54 Public Comment No. 19-NFPA [ Section No ] Bootie material shall be tested for liquid permeation resistance after flexing and abrading as specified in Section 8.8 and shall be tested for a minimum of 1 hour to determine breakthough time as follows: Moderate Contamination Level Min. Time for Passing Std. (1) JP-8 (ASTM Oil #1) 5 minutes (2) Sulfuric Acid (10%) 60 minutes (3) Diesel/heating oil (ISO Liquid F) 5 minutes (4) High-Octane Fuel (ISO Liquid C) 5 minutes (5) Tributyltin (1.5%) 60 minutes (6) Sodium Hydroxide (10%) 60 minutes (7) Isopropanol (10%) 60 minutes As part of Correlating Committee Task Group, correcting typos Submitter Full Name: James Murray Organization: Fire Department City of New Yo Submittal Date: Wed Nov 13 23:56:56 EST 2013

42 Page 38 of 54 Public Comment No. 12-NFPA [ New Section after ] 8.? Hood to Mask Seal Test. 8.?.1 Application. This test method shall apply to seal between dry suit hood and mask. 8.?.2 Samples. 8.?.2.1 Samples shall be dry suit hood capable of being mounted on a head form in such a way of eliminating water intrusion from the neck area. A functioning full face mask will be supplied including all parts needed to provide air to the mask. 8.?.2.2 Samples shall be conditioned as specified in and ?.3 Specimens. A minimum of three hood specimens shall be tested with each manufacturer s mask supplied for compliance 8.?.4 Procedure. Hood to Mask Seal test shall be performed in accordance with the following procedure; Hood should be mounted on the head form in such a way to ensure water tight seal at neck. The mask should be filled with an absorptive material that will easily show wetness. Mask shall be donned onto hooded head form with a minimum of 20mm overlap between hood and mask shirt and in accordance with manufacturer s recommendations. Air supply shall be turned on. At this time, the head harness should be adjusted to ensure it fits properly on the mask. Entire form with donned mask shall be submerged in water in head down inverted position for 5 minutes. Remove head form from water, towel dry exterior of hooded head form and mask and remove air supply. Remove mask from head form and examine interior of mask and facial area of head form for moisture. Examine the absorptive material for any moisture as well. This shall be performed on all three specimens. This shall be repeated with the different mask manufacturers to ensure compliance with each. It is permissible to use a dressed human for this test in lieu of the head form. 8.?.5 Report. Any moisture leakage for each specimen shall be recorded and reported. 8.?.6 Interpretation. Pass or fail determination shall be based on evidence of moisture leakage. Additional information added to clarify document by Correlating Committee Task Group

43 Page 39 of 54 Submitter Full Name: James Murray Organization: Fire Department City of New Yo Submittal Date: Wed Nov 13 22:43:21 EST 2013

44 Page 40 of 54 Public Comment No. 13-NFPA [ New Section after ] 8.? Hood to Breathing System Seal Test. 8.?.1 Application. This test method shall apply to seal between dry suit hood and breathing system that is intended to be used in severe contamination and has a mechanical attachment. 8.?.2 Samples. 8.?.2.1 Samples shall be dry suit hood capable of being mounted on a head form in such a way of eliminating water intrusion from the neck area. A functioning breathing system will be supplied including all parts needed to provide air to the mask or helmet. 8.?.2.2 Samples shall be conditioned as specified in and ?.3 Specimens. A minimum of three hood specimens shall be tested with each manufacturer s mask supplied for compliance 8.?.4 Procedure. Hood to Breathing System Seal test shall be performed in accordance with the following procedure; Hood should be mounted on the head form in such a way to ensure water tight seal at neck. The breathing system should be filled with an absorptive material that will easily show wetness. Breathing System shall be donned onto hooded head form in accordance with manufacturer s recommendations. Air supply shall be turned on. Entire form with donned mask shall be submerged in water in head down inverted position for 5 minutes. Remove head form from water, towel dry exterior of hooded head form and breathing system and remove air supply. Remove breathing system from head form and examine interior of mask and facial area of head form for moisture. Examine the absorptive material for any moisture as well. This shall be performed on all three specimens. This shall be repeated with the different mask manufacturers to ensure compliance with each. It is permissible to use a dressed human for this test in lieu of the head form. 8.?.5 Report. Any moisture leakage for each specimen shall be recorded and reported. 8.?.6 Interpretation. Pass or fail determination shall be based on evidence of moisture leakage. Additional information added to clarify document by Correlating Committee Task Group

45 Page 41 of 54 Submitter Full Name: James Murray Organization: Fire Department City of New Yo Submittal Date: Wed Nov 13 22:45:07 EST 2013

46 Page 42 of 54 Public Comment No. 41-NFPA [ Section No. 8.8 ] 8.8 Chemical Permeation Resistance Test. Test (Adapt and combine procedures with Section 8.9 for use of cumulative permeation for list of chemicals) Application This test method shall apply to dry suit materials and seams, dry suit hood materials and seams, glove materials and seams, dry suit bootie materials and seams (if different from suit material and seams)or footwear materials and seams (if different from suit material and seams), exhaust valve and zippers Modifications to this test method for testing dry suit, hood, exhaust valve diaphragm material, and bootie materials shall be as specified in Modifications to this test method for testing dry suit, hood and bootie seams shall be as specified in Modifications to this test method for testing glove materials and seams shall be as specified in Modifications to this test method for testing footwear shall be as specified in Modifications to this test method for testing zippers shall be as specified in Sample Preparation Samples shall be the chemical protection layer of the size specified in the modifications Samples shall be conditioned as specified in after the conditioning specified in the modifications Specimens Specimens shall be the size specified in ASTM F 739, Standard Test Method for Resistance of Protective Clothing Materials to Permeation by Liquids or Gases Under Conditions of Continuous Contact At least three specimens of each material shall be tested per chemical Procedure Specimens shall be tested for permeation resistance for not less than 60 minutes against the chemicals specified in in accordance with ASTM F 739, Standard Test Method for Resistance of Protective Clothing Materials to Permeation by Liquids or Gases Under Conditions of Continuous Contact The following liquid chemicals shall be tested:

47 Page 43 of 54 (1) JP-8 (ASTM Oil #1)...100% (2) Sulfuric Acid...50% (3) Diesel/heating oil (ISO Liquid F)...100% (4) High- Octane Fuel (ISO Liquid C)...100% (5) Tributyltin...15% (6) Sodium Hydroxide...50% (7) Isopropanol...100% (1) Moderate Contamination Level Min Time for Pass. Std. (2) JP-8 (ASTM Oil #1, 100%)... 5 minutes (3) Sulfuric Acid (10%)...60 minutes (4) Diesel/heating oil (ISO Liquid F, 100%)...5 minutes (5) High-Octane Fuel (ISO Liquid C, 100%)...5 minutes (6) Tributyltin (1.5%)...60 minutes (7) Sodium Hydroxide (10%)...60 minutes (8) Isopropanol (10%)...60 minutes For permeation tests the concentration density shall be 100 g/m 2, +1/-0 g/m 2, and the cell shall be assembled in closed-top configuration * The test cell shall be assembled in the closed-top configuration with 0.3 lpm, ±0.03 lpm of filtered air with a relative humidity of 80 percent, ±5 percent flowing through the top of the cell. The test cell washer shall be allowed to be sealed by an impermeable nonreactive sealant Report. The pass or fail results for each chemical tested and identification of location where breakthrough occurs, if discernible, shall be recorded and reported Interpretation. Observed breakthrough at the end of the test for any specimen shall constitute failure Specific Requirements for Testing, Hood and Footwear Materials Samples for conditioning shall be at least 380 mm (15 in.) square and shall consist of all layers as configured in the suit, hood, or bootie Composite samples prepared as described in shall be tested after being subjected to the following conditioning: (1) Specimens shall first be subjected to the procedure specified in (2) Specimens shall then be conditioned as specified in The composite sample that was conditioned in shall be trimmed to a sample size of 300 mm 280 mm (12 in. 11 in.). The trimmed composite samples shall be subject to flexing conditioning as specified in with the 280 mm (11 in.) direction parallel with the compression action of the machine. The trimmed samples shall be mounted such that the outer layer is visible with all layers in their normal as worn orientation