NFPA TECHNICAL COMMITTEE FOR Special Operations Clothing and Equipment

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1 NFPA TECHNICAL COMMITTEE FOR Special Operations Clothing and Equipment Omni San Diego Hotel San Diego, CA December 10 12, 2013 Agenda 1. Call to order 2. Introduction and attendance 3. Opening remarks by Interim Chair, Karen Lehtonen 4. Review and approval of minutes from previous meeting 5. NFPA Staff Liaison presentation, Chris Farrell 6. Reports 7. New business A a. Review public input b. Discuss committee input B a. Review public input b. Discuss committee input 8. Other items 9. Next meeting 10. Adjourn

2 TECHNICAL COMMITTEE ON SPECIAL OPERATIONS PROTECTIVE CLOTHING AND EQUIPMENT JANUARY 15-17, 2013 ORLANDO, FL MINUTES OF THE MEETING The meeting was called to order by Chairman Dean Cox at 9:00 a.m. on Tuesday, January 15, The following members and guests were present: MEMBERS IN ATTENDANCE: Dean Cox, Chairman Fairfax County (VA) Fire & Rescue Karen Lehtonen, Secretary Lion Dave Trebisacci, Staff Liaison NFPA Steve Corrado Underwriters Laboratories Paul Dacey WL Gore and Associates Charles Dunn TenCate/Southern Mills Jim Frank CMC Rescue Steve Geraghty FDNY Bill Haskell NIOSH Diane Hess PBI Performance Products Tricia Hock SEI Gavin Horn University of Illinois Fire Service Institute Steve Hudson Pigeon Mountain Industries George Krause Globe Manufacturing Jeremy Metz West Metro Fire Rescue James Murray FDNY Robert Nelson Chula Vista Fire Department H. Dean Paderick Special Rescue International Beverly Stutts Underwriters Laboratories GUESTS IN ATTENDANCE: Andrew Berndt Randahl Dickson Ben Favret Pete Gannon Amanda Newsom Ulf Nystrom Faith Ortins Celia Powell Blades Robinson Ansell Protective Solutions Orlando Fire Department Vestagen Dive Rescue International Underwriters Laboratories Ansell Protective Solutions Diving Unlimited International US Army PM SCIE Dive Rescue International

3 FAE-SCE Minutes 1/15-17/2013 Page 2 GUESTS IN ATTENDANCE (continued): Mark Saner Brian Shiels Jeff Stull Harry Winer Patrick Woods Workrite Uniform PBI Performance Products International Personal Protection (by phone) HIP Consulting FDNY Members and guests introduced themselves. The Staff Liaison provided a Staff Liaison report which included a cycle update for the various documents covered by this Technical Committee. The Minutes of the last Committee meeting held in San Diego, CA on March 14-16, 2012 were reviewed. A motion to approve the Minutes was made and seconded. The motion passed. Chairman s Remarks: A NITMAM on NFPA 1951 was withdrawn on the floor based on actions taken on similar NITMAM s on NFPA 1971 that were not approved. However some additional issues have been identified with the 2013 Edition of NFPA 1951 that the TC needs to discuss. The proposal to incorporate the NFPA EMS Protective Clothing and Equipment committee into this technical committee is still being evaluated. More information will be provided when the details are available. A new technical committee is being formed within the NFPA Protective Clothing and Equipment project to address breathing apparatus for non-structural firefighting applications. At some time this may be a place for the SCUBA requirements that need to be addressed for contaminated dive. Chairman Cox informed the group about the upcoming FIERO symposium being held in Raleigh, NC from March 4-6, Correlating Committee Update: The Correlating Committee (CC) has appointed a task group to develop a process for introducing new test methods and performance requirements into the project standards. A procedure to follow will be developed for adding in new requirements, including evidence for need, test rationale, safety issues to be addressed and impact on current products. A meeting is also being planned to discuss the future of the protective clothing and equipment project which will include how SCAM documents will be addressed by the technical committees. Relevant to this TC, the NFPA 1858 on Rope and Harness SCAM will be addressed. FAE-SCE Minutes 1/15-17/2013 Page 3

4 Two new projects have been approved; one for land mobile radios (FAE-ELS TC) and a new Technical Committee on SCBA for non-structural firefighting environments. NFPA 1975 Public Comments The technical committee reviewed and took action on the public comments received. The committee also generated committee comments/second revisions. NFPA 1952 Public Input The technical committee reviewed and took action on the public input received and generated additional committee input for the first revision.. NFPA 1953 Public Input The technical committee reviewed and took action on the public input received and generated additional committee input for the first revision. Old Business: None New Business: Chairman Cox established a task group to review the First Drafts of NFPA 1952 and NFPA 1953 and submit public comments with proposed language in order to address unresolved issues (seals, gloves, booties, face openings) and editorial issues. A task group meeting will be held May 7-8 in the Northeast metro area and another meeting in the fall to finalize comments; the participation of the dive manufacturers and testing labs will be needed. Jim Murray (Task Group Chair) and Chairman Cox will organize the meeting. Notification of the task group meeting will be circulated to the technical committee and the resource group. The revision cycle for these documents posting of first draft in early August (draft will be available to TC in April) public comment closing date is November 15, NFPA 1951, 2013 Edition discussion. The certification organizations have identified some issues that were not addressed in the recent revision cycle which resulted in products not being able to be certified to the new edition of the standard. A list of these issues will be provided and reviewed by a task group to be chaired by Dean Cox and including Steve Corrado, Tricia Hock, Karen Lehtonen and George Krause. The task group will draft a TIA by May 1, 2013 to be submitted for the July meeting of the NFPA Standards Council. The first task group meeting will be held February 14, 2013 via teleconference. The next meeting will be held January 14-16, The location is TBD. This meeting will be to review the second draft (public comments) for NFPA 1952 and NFPA A motion was made and seconded to adjourn. The motion passed.

5 FAE-SCE Minutes 1/15-17/2013 Page 4 Chairman Cox adjourned the meeting at 12:00 on January 17, Respectfully submitted, Karen Lehtonen Karen Lehtonen, Secretary TC on Special Operations Protective Clothing and Equipment

6 Page 1 of 50 Public Comment No. 24-NFPA [ Section No [Excluding any Sub-Sections] ] All products that are labeled as being compliant with this standard shall undergo recertification on an annual basis. This recertification shall include the following: (1) Inspection and evaluation to all design requirements as required by the standard on all manufacturer models and components (2) Testing to all performance requirements as specified in Table on all manufacturer models and components within the following protocol: (a) (b) (c) (d) Where a test method incorporates testing both before and after the laundering preconditioning specified in and the test generates quantitative results, recertification testing shall be limited to the conditioning that yielded the worst-case test result during the initial certification for the model or component. Where a test method incorporates testing both before and after the laundering preconditioning specified in and the test generates nonquantitative results, recertifications shall be limited to a single conditioning procedure in any given year. Subsequent annual recertification shall cycle through the remaining conditioning procedure to ensure that all required conditionings are included over time. Where a test method requires the testing of three specimens, a minimum of one specimen shall be tested for annual certification. Where a test method requires the testing of five or more specimens, a minimum of two specimens shall be tested for annual certification. Table Recertification Schedule

7 Page 2 of 50 Wet Suit Product Test Time Overall Donning Efficiency Test Initial certification only Wet Suit Thermal Insulation Test Every year Wet Suit Breaking Strength Test Every year Wet Suit Puncture Propagation Tear Resistance Test Every year Wet Suit Seam Breaking Strength Test Every year Wet Suit Liquid Absorption Resistance Every year Wet Suit Retroreflectivity Test Initial certification only Wet Suit Zipper Strength Test Every year Wet Suit Resistance to Twist Test Every year Wet Suit Opening & Closing of Zippers Test Every year Wet Suit Corrosion Resistance Test Every year Wet Suit Label Durability and Legibility Test Every year Dry Suit Air Retention Test Every year Dry Suit Dry Suit Overall Liquid Integrity Test One Overall Donning Efficiency Test Every year Initial certification only Dry Suit Water and Air Penetration Test Every year Dry Suit Breaking Strength Test Every year Dry Suit Dry Suit Puncture Propagation Tear Resistance Test Cleaning Shrinkage Resistance Test Every year Every two years Dry Suit Seam Breaking Strength Test Every year Dry Suit Dry Suit Dry Suit Liquid Absorption Resistance Test Liquid Penetration Resistance Test Viral Penetration Resistance Test Every year Every year Seams only - Every year Dry Suit Zipper Strength Test Every year Dry Suit Resistance to Twist Test Every year Dry Suit Dry Suit Opening & Closing of Zippers Test Zipper Point Breaking Strength Test Every year Every year Dry Suit Zipper Leak Resistance Test Every year Dry Suit Dry Suit Zipper Opening & Closing Force Test Retroreflectivity Test Every year Initial certification only Dry Suit Corrosion Resistance Test Every year

8 Page 3 of 50 Dry Suit Ice Suit Product Test Time Label Durability and Legibility Test Overall Liquid Integrity Test One Every year Every year Ice Suit Air Retention Test Every year Ice Suit Ice Suit Viral Penetration Resistance Test Overall Donning Efficiency Test Seams only - Every year Initial certification only Ice Suit Thermal Insulation Test Every year Ice Suit Breaking Strength Test Every year Ice Suit Puncture Propagation Tear Resistance Test Every year Ice Suit Seam Breaking Strength Test Every year Ice Suit Ice Suit Ice Suit Ice Suit Liquid Absorption Resistance Test Liquid Penetration Resistance Test Retroreflectivity Test Water and Air Penetration Test Every year Every year Initial certification only Every year Ice Suit Buoyancy Test Every year Ice Suit Corrosion Resistance Test Every year Ice Suit Ice Suit Label Durability and Legibility Test Zipper Point Breaking Strength Test Every year Every year Ice Suit Zipper Leak Resistance Test Every year Ice Suit Ice Suit Surface Water Helmet Opening & Closing of Zippers Test Zipper Opening & Closing Force Test 7.4. Every year Every year 1 Helmet Bucketing Test Initial certification only Surface Water Helmet 7.4.

9 Page 4 of 50 2 Top Impact Resistance Test - Force Surface Water Helmet Surface Water Helmet Surface Water Helmet Surface Water Helmet Surface Water Helmet Surface Water Helmet Surface Water Helmet Surface Water Helmet Surface Water Helmet Surface Water Helmet Every year Physical Penetration Resistance Test Suspension System Retention Test Every year Every year Retention System Test Every year Corrosion Resistance Test Every year Retroreflectivity Test Initial certification only Label Durability and Legibility Test Every year Floatability Test Impact Resistance Test - Acceleration Helmet Roll Off Test Helmet Water Absorption Test Initial certification only Every year Initial certification only Initial certification only Wet Suit Glove Cut Resistance Test Every year Wet Suit Glove Puncture Resistance Test Every year Wet Suit Glove Abrasion Resistance Test 2 Every year Wet Suit Glove Glove Hand Function Test Every year Wet Suit Glove Grip Test Every year Wet Suit Glove Glove Donning Test Every year Wet Suit Glove Corrosion Resistance Test Every year Wet Suit Glove Label Durability and Legibility Test Every year Wet Suit Glove Thermal Insulation Test Every year Dry Suit Glove Cut Resistance Test Every year Dry Suit Glove Puncture Resistance Test Every year Dry Suit Glove Abrasion Resistance Test 2 Every year Dry Suit Glove Glove Hand Function Test Every year Dry Suit Glove Grip Test Every year Dry Suit Glove Glove Donning Test Every year Dry Suit Glove Corrosion Resistance Test Every year Dry Suit Glove Dry Suit Glove Liquid Penetration Resistance Test Viral Penetration Resistance Test Every year Seams only - Every year Dry Suit Glove Overall Liquid Integrity Test 2 Every year

10 Page 5 of 50 Dry Suit Glove Label Durability and Legibility Test Every year Dry Suit Glove Thermal Insulation Test Every year Ice Suit Glove Cut Resistance Test Every year Ice Suit Glove Puncture Resistance Test Every year Ice Suit Glove Abrasion Resistance Test 2 Every year Ice Suit Glove Glove Hand Function Test Every year Ice Suit Glove Grip Test Every year Ice Suit Glove Glove Donning Test Every year Ice Suit Glove Corrosion Resistance Test Every year Ice Suit Glove Ice Suit Glove Ice Suit Glove Liquid Penetration Resistance Test Viral Penetration Resistance Test Label Durability and Legibility Test Every year Seams only - Every year Every year Ice Suit Glove Thermal Insulation Test Every year Wet Suit Footwear Footwear Drain Test Every year Wet Suit Footwear Abrasion Resistance Test 2 (Upper) Every year Wet Suit Footwear Cut Resistance Every year Wet Suit Footwear Puncture Resistance Test (Upper) Every year Wet Suit Footwear Abrasion Resistance Test 2 (Sole) Every year Wet Suit Footwear Puncture Resistance Test (Sole) Every year Wet Suit Footwear Slip Resistance Every year Wet Suit Footwear Corrosion Resistance Every year Wet Suit Footwear Label Durability and Legibility Test Every year Dry Suit Footwear Footwear Drain Test Every year Dry Suit Footwear Abrasion Resistance Test 2 (Upper) Every year Dry Suit Footwear Cut Resistance Every year Dry Suit Footwear Puncture Resistance Test (Upper) Every year Dry Suit Footwear Abrasion Resistance Test 2 (Sole) Every year Dry Suit Footwear Puncture Resistance Test (Sole) Every year Dry Suit Footwear Slip Resistance Test Every year Dry Suit Footwear Corrosion Resistance Test Every year Dry Suit Footwear Ice Suit Footwear Label Durability and Legibility Test Every year Abrasion Resistance Test 2 (Upper) Every year Ice Suit Footwear Cut Resistance Test Every year Ice Suit Footwear Puncture Resistance Test (Upper) Every year Ice Suit Footwear Abrasion Resistance Test 2 (Sole) Every year Ice Suit Footwear Puncture Resistance Test (Sole) Every year Ice Suit Footwear Slip Resistance Test Every year Ice Suit Footwear Liquid Penetration Resistance Test Every year

11 Page 6 of 50 Ice Suit Footwear Viral Penetration Resistance Test Seams only - Every year Ice Suit Footwear Corrosion Resistance Test Every year Ice Suit Footwear Label Durability and Legibility Test Every year Ice Suit Footwear Thermal Insulation Test Every year Personal Flotation Device Personal Flotation Device Personal Flotation Device Personal Flotation Device Personal Flotation Device Personal Flotation Device Personal Flotation Device Personal Flotation Device Personal Flotation Device Personal Flotation Device Personal Flotation Device Personal Flotation Device Buoyancy Test SG3 & 20 of UL Label Durability and Legibility Corrosion Resistance Test Water Entry Test SG3 & 16 of UL Flotation Stability Test SG3 & 17 of UL Buoyancy Distribution Test SG3 & 19 of UL Tensile Test SG3 & 24 of UL Pound Shoulder Tensile Test SG3, SG10, & 24 of UL Pound Release Test SG7 of UL Pound Harness Strength Test (without accelerated weathering) SG9 of UL Pamphlet Strength of Attachment Test SG3 & 35 of UL Pull Toggle Security of Attachment Test SG7A of UL 1123 Initial certification Initial certification Initial certification Initial certification Initial certification Initial certification Initial certification Initial certification Initial certification Initial certification Initial certification Initial certification Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment

12 Page 7 of 50 I would like to request the technical committee to reconsider the helmet bucketing performance requirement. In water events such as personal watercraft, having a helmet that produces high bucketing forces can indeed be of concern. The dynamics of having a body decelerate at a very rapid rate can have negative ramifications on the neck region. This occurs when the body is moving in a forward trajectory at a much higher rate of speed than that of the water in which the body will impact (typically in a horizontal, feet first entry). Although not all water rescues will occur with adequate preparation, this standard intends to address trained individuals in the profession of surface water rescue. For bucketing to typically occur in water rescues, the rescuer would have to be in an orientation more suitable for maximum effect, such as having the head pointed down current while being pulled up current. The test method defined in 8.18 will not adequately address the concern of bucketing. Based on the spherical form being used and the helmet being tested, and requiring the helmet or water move at a speed of 6.7 mph, there are variables that will be difficult, if not impossible to control as listed below: 1) Left to right movement of the head form and helmet 2) Bobbing movement of the head form and helmet 3) Waggle or rotational movement of the head form and helmet 4) Noise from the possibility of wave feedback from the walls of the chamber being used. Each of the above factors could possible skew the forces being recorded and not represent the bucketing characteristics of a helmet. In summary, although bucketing characteristics are important in various applications, this proposal suggests that the Helmet Bucketing Test in Section 8.18 be deleted due to the intended application and users that are targeted by NFPA 1952, as well as the uncontrollable variables within the test method that would not produce representative or consistent results. Submitter Full Name: Christopher James Organization: UL LLC Submittal Date: Mon Nov 04 15:40:29 EST 2013 Copyright Assignment I, Christopher James, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment. By checking this box I affirm that I am Christopher James, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature

13 Page 8 of 50 Public Comment No. 26-NFPA [ New Section after ] Text was deleted in the First Draft Report. See First Revision No. 5 Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment CC NOTE: The following CC Note No. 3 appeared in the First Draft Report as First Revision No. 5. Since the requirements of Chapter 4 of NFPA 1952 are also common to other documents in the Fire and Emergency Services Protective Clothing and Equipment project, the CC will be providing revised text for correlation purposes to be submitted via Public Comment to paragraph Related Item First Revision No. 5-NFPA [Section No ] Submitter Full CC on FAE-AAC Name: CC on Fire and Emergency Services Protective Clothing and Organization: Equipment Submittal Date: Fri Nov 15 12:10:01 EST 2013 Copyright Assignment I, CC on FAE-AAC, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment. By checking this box I affirm that I am CC on FAE-AAC, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature

14 Page 9 of 50 Public Comment No. 27-NFPA [ Sections , ] Sections , * When the manufacturer designates a dry suit as breathable, the total heat loss shall be measured as specified in Section 8.41, Total Heal Loss Test, and the result shall be printed on the product label as required by 5.1.8(11) Where a dry suit is intended to provide protection against chemical hazards, it shall have an environmental and pressure-proof closure by which the user is isolated from the surrounding contaminated environment with the exception of head and hands. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment CC NOTE: The following CC Note No. 1 appeared in the First Draft Report as First Revision No. 2, and also related to Public Input No. 3. The Correlating Committee requests that the Technical Committee on Special Operations Protective Clothing and Equipment clarify the requirement in paragraph so that a certification organization can make a determination as to what constitutes an environmental and pressure-proof closure. The CC also recommends that performance criteria be provided instead of design criteria. Related Item First Revision No. 2-NFPA [New Section after ] Public Input No. 3-NFPA [New Section after ] Submitter Full CC on FAE-AAC Name: CC on Fire and Emergency Services Protective Clothing and Organization: Equipment Submittal Date: Fri Nov 15 12:13:55 EST 2013 Copyright Assignment I, CC on FAE-AAC, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment.

15 Page 10 of 50 By checking this box I affirm that I am CC on FAE-AAC, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature

16 Page 11 of 50 Public Comment No. 1-NFPA [ Section No ] Protective wet suits shall be tested for donning efficiency as specified in Section 8.4, Overall Donning Efficiency Test, and shall be donned and doffed in 3 minutes or less. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment To retain consistency within the test method for the donning evaluation of suits, clause should be revised to remove the doffing requirements for wetsuits. Currently, Section 8.4, Overall Donning Efficiency Test doesn t define a specific method for interpreting a doffing failure. In addition, given the intent and environment in which these protective suits are to be used, the need to evaluate the doffing characteristics is not necessary. Submitter Full Name: Christopher James Organization: UL LLC Submittal Date: Tue Sep 24 13:34:27 EDT 2013 Copyright Assignment I, Christopher James, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment. By checking this box I affirm that I am Christopher James, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature

17 Page 12 of 50 Public Comment No. 2-NFPA [ Section No ] * Protective wet suit materials shall be tested for thermal insulation and shall have a clo value of at least 1. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment A thermal insulation value is irrelevant for wet suits since such suits are designed to allow water ingress and migration within the suit. Similar to the decision to remove a thermal insulation requirement for dry suits, the same consideration should be made for wet suits. Submitter Full Name: Christopher James Organization: UL LLC Submittal Date: Tue Sep 24 13:36:33 EDT 2013 Copyright Assignment I, Christopher James, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment. By checking this box I affirm that I am Christopher James, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature

18 Page 13 of 50 Public Comment No. 3-NFPA [ Section No ] Protective wet suit materials shall be tested for water absorption resistance as specified in Section 8.11, Liquid Absorption Resistance Test, and shall not have a water absorption greater than 10 percent. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment A test to evaluate the resistance of liquid absorption is irrelevant for wet suits since such suits are designed to allow water ingress and migration within the suit. Submitter Full Name: Christopher James Organization: UL LLC Submittal Date: Tue Sep 24 13:39:02 EDT 2013 Copyright Assignment I, Christopher James, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment. By checking this box I affirm that I am Christopher James, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature

19 Page 14 of 50 Public Comment No. 4-NFPA [ Section No ] Protective dry suits shall be tested for the ability to evacuate air allow no more than 500 grams of water ingress, and shall allow for the evacuation of air from within the suit by means of the suit design and/or by the user, as specified in Section 8.33, Water and Air Penetration Test, and shall show no air or water entrapment. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment The means for evaluating that no air is entrapped within a dry suit is not practical. There will always be entrapped air within a dry suit. The requirement should state that the suit should be designed to allow for any entrapped air to be removed either by the design of the suit or by the user. In addition, dry suits will typically allow small amounts of water ingress into the suit. Submitter Full Name: Christopher James Organization: UL LLC Submittal Date: Tue Sep 24 13:40:44 EDT 2013 Copyright Assignment I, Christopher James, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment. By checking this box I affirm that I am Christopher James, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature

20 Page 15 of 50 Public Comment No. 28-NFPA [ Section No ] Protective dry suit materials, dry suit bootie materials, and dry suit hood materials shall be tested for strength as specified in Section 8.6, Breaking Strength Test, and shall have a breaking strength of not less than 445 N (100 lbf). Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment CC NOTE: The following CC Note No. 4 appeared in the First Draft Report as First Revision No. 8. The Correlating Committee requests that the Technical Committee on Special Operations Protective Clothing and Equipment provide additional information related to the justification for the removal of the performance requirement in paragraph Related Item First Revision No. 8-NFPA [Section No ] Submitter Full CC on FAE-AAC Name: CC on Fire and Emergency Services Protective Clothing and Organization: Equipment Submittal Date: Fri Nov 15 12:17:43 EST 2013 Copyright Assignment I, CC on FAE-AAC, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment. By checking this box I affirm that I am CC on FAE-AAC, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature

21 Page 16 of 50 Public Comment No. 29-NFPA [ Section No ] Dry suits that are intended to provide protection against chemical hazards shall have dry suit materials and seams, dry suit bootie material and seams, and dry suit zippers tested for permeation resistance after flexing and abrading as specified in Section 8.43 and shall not exhibit a breakthrough detection time of 1 hour or less for the following list of industrial chemicals: (1) JP-8 (ASTM Oil #1) (2) Sulfuric Acid (50%) (3) Diesel/heating oil (ISO Liquid F) (4) High Octane (ISO Liquid C) Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment CC NOTE: The following CC Note No. 2 appeared in the First Draft Report as First Revision No. 3, and also related to Public Input No. 4. The Correlating Committee requests that the Technical Committee on Special Operations Protective Clothing and Equipment to provide additional detail regarding the following issues in paragraph : 1. justification for the selection and concentrations for the chemicals to be evaluated 2. the ability to apply permeation testing to zipper samples 3. the ability to flex and abrade zipper and seam samples 4. the use of breakthrough detection time as a criterion; the CC recommends the use of cumulative permeation mass as an end point for permeation testing. Related Item First Revision No. 3-NFPA [New Section after ] Public Input No. 4-NFPA [New Section after ] Submitter Full CC on FAE-AAC Name: CC on Fire and Emergency Services Protective Clothing and Organization: Equipment Submittal Date: Fri Nov 15 12:19:19 EST 2013 Copyright Assignment

22 Page 17 of 50 I, CC on FAE-AAC, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment. By checking this box I affirm that I am CC on FAE-AAC, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature

23 Page 18 of 50 Public Comment No. 32-NFPA [ Section No ] Dry suits that are intended to provide protection against chemical hazards shall have dry suit materials and seams, dry suit bootie material and seams, and dry suit zippers tested for permeation resistance after flexing and abrading as specified in Section 8.43 and shall not exhibit a breakthrough detection time of 1 hour or less for the average cumulative permeation mass in 1 hour shall not exceed 6.0 μg/cm 2 for the following list of industrial chemicals: (1) JP-8 (ASTM Oil #1) (2) Sulfuric Acid (50%) (3) Diesel/heating oil (ISO Liquid F) (4) High Octane (ISO Liquid C) Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment The currently specified test procedures do not account for the most recent changes that have been applied according to other NFPA standards. A cumulative permeation measurement provides a more consistent and standardized form of establishing permeation resistance for protective clothing materials.. Related Item Correlating Committee Note No. 2-NFPA [] Submitter Full Name: Jeffrey Stull Organization: International Personnel Protection, Inc. Submittal Date: Fri Nov 15 15:39:05 EST 2013 Copyright Assignment I, Jeffrey Stull, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment. By checking this box I affirm that I am Jeffrey Stull, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature

24 Page 1 of 2 Correlating Committee Note No. 2-NFPA [ ] Submitter Full Name: Patrick Foley Organization: NFPA Submittal Date: Mon Jul 22 09:23:34 EDT 2013 Committee Statement and Meeting Notes Committee Statement: The Correlating Committee requests that the Technical Committee on Special Operations Protective Clothing and Equipment to provide additional detail regarding the following issues in paragraph : 1. justification for the selection and concentrations for the chemicals to be evaluated 2. the ability to apply permeation testing to zipper samples 3. the ability to flex and abrade zipper and seam samples 4. the use of breakthrough detection time as a criterion; the CC recommends the use of cumulative permeation mass as an end point for permeation testing Ballot Results This item has passed ballot 27 Eligible Voters 7 Not Returned 20 Affirmative All 0 Affirmative with Comments 0 Negative with Comments 0 Abstention Not Returned Allen, Jason L. Arrington, Joseph Barker, Roger L. Beck, Eric J. Legendre, Jeff Neilson, Gary L. Reall, Jack E. Affirmative All Corrado, Steven D. Duffy, Richard M. Fargo, Cristine Z. Freese, Robert A. Gulledge, Beverly F.

25 Page 2 of 2 Haskell, III, William E. Haston, David V. Hosea, Thomas M. Johnson, James S. Lehtonen, Karen E. Matthews, David G. McKenna, Michael F. Putorti, Jr., Anthony D. Sanders, Stephen R. Stull, Jeffrey O. Tomlinson, Tim W. Van Lent, William A. Varner, Bruce H. Winer, Harry P. Young, Richard H.

26 Page 19 of 50 Public Comment No. 5-NFPA [ Section No ] * Protective ice suit and protective ice suit hood materials shall be tested for thermal insulation as specified in Section 8.5, Thermal Insulation Test, and shall have a clo value of at least 2. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment The proposed revision contains a requirement with no test method. The entire paragraph should be removed, or the thermal insulation test should be retained. Submitter Full Name: Christopher James Organization: UL LLC Submittal Date: Tue Sep 24 13:45:10 EDT 2013 Copyright Assignment I, Christopher James, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment. By checking this box I affirm that I am Christopher James, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature

27 Page 20 of 50 Public Comment No. 6-NFPA [ Section No ] Protective ice suits shall be tested for the ability to evacuate air allow no more than 500 grams of water ingress, and shall allow for the evacuation of air from within the suit by means of the suit design and/or by the user, as specified in Section 8.33, Water and Air Penetration Test, and shall show no air or water entrapment. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment The means for evaluating that no air is entrapped within a ice suit is not practical. There will always be entrapped air within a ice suit. The requirement should state that the suit should be designed to allow for any entrapped air to be removed either by the design of the suit or by the user. In addition, ice suits will typically allow small amounts of water ingress into the suit. Submitter Full Name: Christopher James Organization: UL LLC Submittal Date: Tue Sep 24 13:57:15 EDT 2013 Copyright Assignment I, Christopher James, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment. By checking this box I affirm that I am Christopher James, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature

28 Page 21 of 50 Public Comment No. 23-NFPA [ Section No ] Protective helmets shall be tested for bucketing as specified in Section 8.17, Helmet Bucketing Test, and shall not produce a force greater than 55 N (12.4 lbf). Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment I would like to request the technical committee to reconsider the helmet bucketing performance requirement. In water events such as personal watercraft, having a helmet that produces high bucketing forces can indeed be of concern. The dynamics of having a body decelerate at a very rapid rate can have negative ramifications on the neck region. This occurs when the body is moving in a forward trajectory at a much higher rate of speed than that of the water in which the body will impact (typically in a horizontal, feet first entry). Although not all water rescues will occur with adequate preparation, this standard intends to address trained individuals in the profession of surface water rescue. For bucketing to typically occur in water rescues, the rescuer would have to be in an orientation more suitable for maximum effect, such as having the head pointed down current while being pulled up current. The test method defined in 8.18 will not adequately address the concern of bucketing. Based on the spherical form being used and the helmet being tested, and requiring the helmet or water move at a speed of 6.7 mph, there are variables that will be difficult, if not impossible to control as listed below: 1) Left to right movement of the head form and helmet 2) Bobbing movement of the head form and helmet 3) Waggle or rotational movement of the head form and helmet 4) Noise from the possibility of wave feedback from the walls of the chamber being used. Each of the above factors could possible skew the forces being recorded and not represent the bucketing characteristics of a helmet. In summary, although bucketing characteristics are important in various applications, this proposal suggests that the Helmet Bucketing Test in Section 8.18 be deleted due to the intended application and users that are targeted by NFPA 1952, as well as the uncontrollable variables within the test method that would not produce representative or consistent results. Submitter Full Name: Christopher James Organization: UL LLC Submittal Date: Mon Nov 04 15:38:34 EST 2013 Copyright Assignment

29 Page 22 of 50 I, Christopher James, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment. By checking this box I affirm that I am Christopher James, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature

30 Page 23 of 50 Public Comment No. 7-NFPA [ Section No ] * Dry suit protective glove materials shall be tested for thermal insulation and shall have a clo value of at least 0.5. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment The thermal insulation requirement was removed for protective dry suits, so to remain consistent, Clause should also be deleted for dry suit gloves. Submitter Full Name: Christopher James Organization: UL LLC Submittal Date: Tue Sep 24 14:03:28 EDT 2013 Copyright Assignment I, Christopher James, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment. By checking this box I affirm that I am Christopher James, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature

31 Page 24 of 50 Public Comment No. 8-NFPA [ Section No ] * Ice suit protective glove materials shall be tested for thermal insulation and as specified in Section 8.5, Thermal Insuation Test, and shall have a clo value of at least 2. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment The proposed revision contains a requirement with no test method. The entire paragraph should be removed, or the thermal insulation test should be retained. Submitter Full Name: Christopher James Organization: UL LLC Submittal Date: Tue Sep 24 14:05:40 EDT 2013 Copyright Assignment I, Christopher James, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment. By checking this box I affirm that I am Christopher James, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature

32 Page 25 of 50 Public Comment No. 9-NFPA [ Section No ] Wet suit and dry suit protective footwear soles shall be tested for slip resistance as specified in Section 8.29, Slip Resistance Test, and shall have a static coefficient friction of or greater under wet conditions. Statement of Problem and Substantiation for Public Comment There has been an ongoing need for a slip resistance method that incorporates the entire footwear assembly rather than just sections of the outsole. This proposal reflects the method that was developed by the ASTM F13 Pedestrian/Walkway Safety and Footwear Committee. The proposal resulted in the publication of a slip resistance method in ASTM F2913 which was published in Submitter Full Name: Christopher James Organization: UL LLC Submittal Date: Tue Sep 24 14:07:19 EDT 2013 Copyright Assignment I, Christopher James, hereby irrevocably grant and assign to the National Fire Protection Association (NFPA) all and full rights in copyright in this Public Comment (including both the Proposed Change and the Statement of Problem and Substantiation). I understand and intend that I acquire no rights, including rights as a joint author, in any publication of the NFPA in which this Public Comment in this or another similar or derivative form is used. I hereby warrant that I am the author of this Public Comment and that I have full power and authority to enter into this copyright assignment. By checking this box I affirm that I am Christopher James, and I agree to be legally bound by the above Copyright Assignment and the terms and conditions contained therein. I understand and intend that, by checking this box, I am creating an electronic signature that will, upon my submission of this form, have the same legal force and effect as a handwritten signature