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This is Ben Bull, July 7, 1987, interviewing Sellrs 1 -be discussing Sellrs fmily Everett Jordn, her first cousin. She is dughter of Benjmin Riney Sellrs, son of Dr. >: B. A. Sellrs. s spelled Brwley: "rs" or "ers" "rs" is originl spelling, wy we spell, how did get chnged "ers" by some members of fmily? Mor ld me Chrlie, Fred Ernest decided chnge "ers" becuse in wring esier wre n e thn n. Wher sts or not 'm not sure, 's wht hve remembered from my childhood. n looking through some of old records re were few "e"s, more ""s. There even one cme over from Germny y spelled Sellozs or something funny spelling Germn spelling. you sid re were two brors There 'were two^ brors who cme over from Engl settled H in Pennsylvni from re y migrted down North Crolin. One mrried Nncy S^llinger who dughter of Benjmin Riney. Benjmin Riney prominent plnttion owner wh mny slves. He minister t Providence Church in Grhm. One of slves he mentions in his will his wife is Kissie. n Alex Hley's book, A! 2-2. l. "Roots" he mentions slve nmed Kissie, in picture mde Kissie in. t's such n unusul nme hve wondered if could be one sme. Spelled Spelled Kizzie believe. l nme Kissie? Now 's just supposion, is me is very unusul. He mentions mn slve nmed Ben severl women whose nmes he mentions in his will. nterview number C-0108 in Sourn Orl Hisry Progrm Collection (#4007) t The Sourn Hisricl Collection,

Brwley 2 Now this Thoms Sellrs, Sr., hd Thoms Sellrs, Jr., who hd eleven children. '3 One Dr. Benjmin Abel Sellrs. Evidently fmily hd money becuse one of sons sent medicl school in Phildelphi, he never mounted much never prctised in lter yers hd be kept up by Benjmin Abel Sellrs. J Benjmin he Abel Sellrs sent Universy of Pennsylvni where/grduted in medicl school wh honors. sw lst night when reding. He lso hd eleven children, one of whom Annie Sellrs Jordn. BB* We will now be discussing Chrlie Sellers. D^: Chrlie hd n rt gllery upstirs on Min Street. He lso phogrpher one of first phogrphers in Burlingn. ld, s child, he hd first umobile in Burlingn. He courted Annie Morrow 2 5 yers, he mrried he y sid only reson going Montret. Ernest, John, Chrlie Wlter hd bought house ger in Montret, so Chrlie going Annie Morrow wnted go wh him, so.night bee y left he got in his cr, went by picked up Miss Annie Bson his sister, Flor Brooks Annie Morrow y drove down Psr Buck's t Bptist Church. The ors didn't know why, when y drove up Chrlie, who never tlked very much, out went in he sid, sid, "Get out." "We're going get mrried." They got Psr Buck mrried m y sid Chrlie sod up wh pir of pnts on hd big ptch in bck. Montret. The next morning y left Tht honeymoon wh housefull of people children end of 2 5 yer courtship.,.j; How did you spell psr's nme?. Y^ \,- nterview number C-0108 in Sourn Orl Hisry Progrm Collection (#4007) t The Sourn Hisricl Collection,

B-u-c-k. Brwley 3 He psr t First Bptist Church of Burlingn long time. : Ws Chrlie Sellers Bptist? Chrlie Sellers Christin. Why he went Bptist Church insted of First Christin church no one knew mybe throw everybody off. How bout Annie, she Bptist? She Presbyterin--y went neutrl church. hve often been ld by mny people Everett Jordn Chrlie Sellers fvore nephew. DB- This is true. Why this true? n lter yers- Chrlie Aunt Annie mrried Chrlie _te ree hd no children / on bord of direcrs t Sellers Mfg. Co. They used tell sry when y would hve direcrs meeting Everett would tell this Chrlie, Ernest Wlter would mrch in, s down, Everett would go over minutes Everett sid if y sid, "Unh" pssed, if.y st silent, didn't pss. Tht wy y crried on ir business meeting. -~\: wonder why he ok on Everett so much more thn ny of rest? think fct Everett hd strted this mill you know he cme from Gsni strted this mill here Chrlie interes ted in, hving no children of his own so y would go up re lmost every Sundy fternoon. y would tke children. They, Everett Krine, lter ld one time Rose Ann sid, "We got go Chrlie's gin?" So Everett Chrlie's fvore becuse he looked fter him, ok time be friends wh him nterview number C-0108 in Sourn Orl Hisry Progrm Collection (#4007) t The Sourn Hisricl Collection,

L-.J: Did rest No--no becuse Sundy y went beside of Unc3?e '<: Where On Front After Aunt Wht Bee is pssed Huff hs y built wy in : Wsted wter? Wsted wter his Cn you of his time? property rn down, could not in Mry's sts West lived wh y were see why Aunt dy. Chrlie's still re. (330 y 192U-- while Front Street) Grmor still Sellrs. living wh gr world Annie Morrow hd dy. every tell house still Osteopth office this me no one could get dirty y would hve dy. some sries would fmily, sy bout Chrlie Sellers bought like tke trip Mt. house chrlie wnted Chrlie spoke lest of describe ny member of when y would come mountins who hd >: every chrcter or personly--humorous nything. t number of house? bth Almost big house right Chrlie build house grmor fmily. Chrlie. every tke kn V bth close down Aunt Mry's,who hd tke very Street some Dr. mor, ignore him? Mry died her house She fmily did y live given sts of Brwley go Chrlie wnted ger if y decided one Mchell or Tryon or somewhere Why this true. else, wh no four brors dy y would someplce if rgument y went where go. He not oldest he? nterview number C-0108 in Sourn Orl Hisry Progrm Collection (#4007) t The Sourn Hisricl Collection,

No unwrten lw course my fr, some guess. Benjmin Riney were reson y did wht ~1: They ctered him. They went where he ': Pul Thoms Morrow, Jr. wnted tlked Brwley Ernest were both of ll older thn Chrlie wnted Chrlie, do. go. n~ ' bout Chrlie he described his frugl wys. Could you tell me bout some of his frugly? Well he relly cn't remember o much bout guess grmor, she hd big bll of sved ppers. plces or some of -- m ld string. she She never ne\er threw threw ppers string wy, wy--she Wher or not this crryover when y hd fire sves don't know. Morrow remember things y would inhered And fter Chrlie mrried Annie st out in childs mind remember go on se trips while y were Morrow lwys wnted peches grpes, "Don't need m." in mountins Annie Chrlie would sy, And would finish occsionlly he would brek over buy bsket of peches or bsket of grpes so seldom. As cn remember, he did not throw money wy. How did sre look he rn here don't remember much bout except going up his rt gllery bck in bck prt cn remember seems in wn? studio where he mde pictures. All re bckdrop wh clouds or somethin you st in front of hve pictures mde. t seems out of view of cmer re "stuff" junk mybe inhered some of in looking round here. : But 's bout ll cn remember. Now n bout Everett Jordn do you remember ny sries thh involved him? nterview number C-0108 in Sourn Orl Hisry Progrm Collection (#4007) t The Sourn Hisricl Collection,

remember one fmilies went bout 'up grmors. m sting round re bck y were ll bck CY:...no, Erl Prduefs fter upstirs somehow th on no time voted house, me vote He not blind on he would stuck or five fternoon ll or yrd fll. Tht's in my mind ll down 18 Sellers yer Everett hve constutionl vote he couldn't Of course. looked old--swingin; course cn remember Everett olds wnt re 18 And down swingin; lter y did becuse he introduce vote or 18 sy yers " wnt old t prt. yer olds hd know why very constution sttes unless eighteen yer old sttes t Everett hd thought he hd son. right unconstutionl. constututionl mmendment pretty good nswer on his Apprently or felt 's olds. 18 becuse giving is yer sked him, vote?" he voted Young who somehow vote mmendment support eighteen yer olds sries y And of specificlly left power of who vote six yers outside. nywy Everett sid porch four or Clibourne voted mrched up Sundy cn remember m telling n't your house, Sente hd nswer. on On blind. m now tlking good n petrified out Everett. Everett--he th on bout, you sry bout Brwley did. He But thought obviously redy sked him give question lredy. blnfc spce on tpe********* nterview number C-0108 in Sourn Orl Hisry Progrm Collection (#4007) t The Sourn Hisricl Collection,

Brwley mrried precher Everett's mor sid prticulrly Methodist Why? She think didn't wnt she trvel precher's ministry decided...ll They hd go this whe expect go she mde in re get lot ever erned? Oh bsolutely. precher she When he went ****&Blnk grmors didn't Henry Jordn long whe this sure of things Chrlie sved Oh bsolutely. The 3 of heds grmor cloth tke fternoon. evidently full children's 'm cookies Sundy cloth tble see in tpe**** every food which so cents ors food, ll whe under knew bout. children could food. of every nickel he used lugh bout didn't bor him. How did he When Ernest Goldsboro he cme bck under this Did you sy ministry. you would in cook becuse cloth tking noticed lst/ he prctised bout two dining tble wh linen cloth mrry wife mteril. She mrried night fmily went grmor liked never round much mybe Methodist big would precher. he n trney. yers she invest --rel estte? strted mill when ticket gent Burlingotn he rilrod strted this mill which first hosiery mills probbly My Hosiery two of first mills in Burlingn-- Ernest compny. guess in When he one of Sellrs Hosiery were Chrlie who so nterview number C-0108 in Sourn Orl Hisry Progrm Collection (#4007) t The Sourn Hisricl Collection,

frugl hd ll They used lugh everything he y went. Then bought And money, put money in turned sre in hrdwre my fr, in Chrlie never worked put money i.....ts' drug n Min of his who Ernest's mill. dy dispense medicine oldest son, on life, Front flour cme this property on Min Street Street hrdwre dropped-- in his gold. piecegoods Brwley home moved soft Street, things from like school round goods ll ger beginning. *ft ft ft ft Blnk tpe * ***? To 4~( ere knoll bee Sellrs home Tht he cme Yes, he helped nme Clibourne Young: cn tell plce. Compny Shops? wn who...even though bord chose is mmedely fter crossing Rolph County line Burlingn. relly one of originls. Whoever owns house now...wonder on right h Clibourne Young: nme very wered now you Liberty 's on Tht's y don't fix. from Kimesville side. correct. sign on right h why Going wrds side of rod immedely refter this house Liberty you'll sys see Rolph County is on right. know becuse 'v e driven rod more times thn you cn count. Does CY: Yes, s mor sid,.so Sellrs s B. off A. rod ltle ss up born wys? on ltle knoll. in Ornge County? nterview number C-0108 in Sourn Orl Hisry Progrm Collection (#4007) t The Sourn Hisricl Collection,

Brwley CY: Yes, 'm sure he born on home plce of Thoms Sellrs, Jr., his fr., myself, m uncler where home plce down wrds Hw River? t sys "on Hw" CY: Somewhere down re. Somewhere in ll this mish-msh re is picture of home plce in terrible condion 'm sure 's down now old, old even when this/picture tken in horrible condion n. So eleven Sellrs children cme in school on wgon from out ner Hopedle down Burlingn--Compny Shops rr-- See on Hw River ner Hopedle--wrds Hopedle. 5: And y cme Union School locted here in Compny Shops? Yes. Union School--do you know where Union Avenue is? You go cross rilrod, which is now n underpss you turn left--re is brick building hs been built in recent yers techerge Stfd Hll clled. t is now End of tpe nterview number C-0108 in Sourn Orl Hisry Progrm Collection (#4007) t The Sourn Hisricl Collection,