Advisry Grup Meeting #7. March 9, 2017. Transcribed Breakut Grup Discussin Ntes. Discussin Questins. What feedback have yu heard frm yur cmmunities abut the near-term strategies? What d yu think wrks abut Optin B and where culd it be strengthened? Are there specific elements frm Optin C that yu wuld like t see carried frward? What wuld yu like t see included in the additinal analysis f Optin D? (Specific cncerns that shuld be analyzed? Suggestins yu ve heard frm peple fr hw t imprve it?) Grup 1. Cnsider car/bike parking at hubs, cnsider capacity fr bikes n buses/trains. Drp percent at hubs. Pedestrian mvement at hubs. Cnsider hub t uter edge f dwntwn (i.e. SODO, Stadium). Add capacity fr transit t accmmdate future grwth and enfrcement f transit pririty. Cnnected bike netwrk. Bus transfer: balance time savings with custmer need. Need better data n bus vlumes needed t understand impacts. Impacts t adjacent neighbrhds. Relatinship near-term t lng term. Each cnstituency has its needs. Why nw? Can we delay clsure f DSTT? Shuld be dne regardless. Mre enfrcement/3rd Ave transit nly, especially peak. 24/7? Speed barding at bus stps all rutes. Turns n/ff 3rd Ave affect flw. Safety: crime, perceptins f persnal security. Imprve n 3rd Ave t demnstrate hw 5th Ave culd wrk. Supprt analysis with additinal data, change vlume f buses. One Center City Advisry Grup Mtg. 7 Page 1 f 5
Balance transfer penalty time versus changing bus. Incentivize the transfer t encurage/supprt change in behavir. Partial 2-way 5th Ave versus entire crridr? Freeway access. Understand sidewalk impacts. Lk at ther examples f successful transit streets (Zurich). Optin D lite i.e. SB nly. Imprve 3rd Ave befre addressing 5th Ave. Hw d the tw differ? Why? Grup 2. Need t better understand extents f transit nly n 5th Ave and impacts (in prep fr IDS/C neighbrhd). Optin B elements easily implemented - little impact t peples experience. Real time inf at stps imprvement and can speed barding. Better experience. Service alerts needed. Freight, delivery, lad-znes, I-5-thrugh traffic - full netwrk. Mix and match apprach - additinal capacity. SB 5th Ave (transit nly)? 2-way 6th Ave? Alley use. Signal cnflict/sequence. Dn t fld ID with buses. Hub further suth. Dn t truncate 550/41. Better freight data. Ped imprvements t 1st Ave. Cntinue 5th Ave analysis transit crridr. Wayfinding signage (language barriers). Lw incme fare changes. Fare free zne. NB 4th/SB 5th avenues- bike lanes. Additinal SB dedicated bus lane. NB 4th/SB 5th avenues- bike lanes. Additinal SB dedicated bus lane. 2-way 6th Ave. N tree remval. Optimize 3rd Ave (stp frequency adjustment). 6th Ave - width fr 2-way cmfrt. Further investment in TDM. One Center City Advisry Grup Mtg. 7 Page 2 f 5
Grup 3. 5th Ave design fr transit/public realm can make it wrk. Better understanding f implementatin. Bus numbers. Impacts utside cre (all ptins). Maximize hubs. Simplify access t ORCA/relad/prelad/apps. A lt f interest in cmpletin f CCBN. Lack f general knwledge n what dwntwn is facing (buses ut f tunnel). Need mre utreach/cverage. Dn t knw hw rutes are changing. Lt f ther transprtatin effrts- hw d these align? Bring these int the fld. Need mre educatin/media cverage. Dedicated t bus lanes/signal pririty is critical. Lt f transprtatin prjects/utreach, versaturatin. Dn t want t make 5th Ave like 3rd Ave. Nt walkable; n sense f place. What is it abut 3rd Ave that desn t wrk? Transit nly = n retail. Public safety/enfrcement. Activity n 5th Ave cunteracts litering. T make transit n 5th Ave wrk, we need a blck by blck apprach. What wuld the cnstructin transitin n 5th Ave lk like? Shppers avid 3rd Ave. What wrks? Hw t strengthen? Need a 2-way prtected bike lane. Cannt remve sidewalks. Wrks- includes prtected bike lane. Need dedicated transit lanes. Need t elevate priritizatin f transit. Idea- have buses/streetcar n first. Have lack f cnsensus here. Optin C. Like priritizatin f transit. Dedicated transit lanes. Like a 2-way, mre functinal 6th Ave. Need wider buffer between radway/sidewalk. Like spreading transit acrss multiple streets (2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th avenues). One Center City Advisry Grup Mtg. 7 Page 3 f 5
Hw are we ging t get mre bicyclists n 2nd and 5th avenues? What t include in additinal analysis? Need t justify making 5th Ave a transit crridr. What wuld the user experience be? Need t knw what went wrng with 3rd Ave. Hw will yu imprve the pedestrian experience n 3rd Ave? Prve 5th wn t get wrse by imprving 3rd Ave. Hw wuld Optin D impact travel times dwntwn; when cmpared with Grup 4. Hw wuld bus peratins n 5th Ave wrk? Need specificity. Des this pen up any public realm pprtunities? (i.e. widening sidewalks). SCA: cncerns abut bus restructure, impacts n the regin. Light rail capacity cncerns, and fleet arrival. When is analysis ready? Basic bike netwrk mving frward. Public realm n 5th Ave. Hw t keep it a beautiful street. Like legibility f 1st, 3rd, 5th avenues as transit. Get bike netwrk built. Cncerns abut sidewalk capacity n 5th Ave. Pedestrian realm needs t be cnsidered during cnstructin. SOVs need t be at bttm f the list. Separate transit riders/pedestrians with design. Intuitive design, even transit barding. Optin B lks gd. Parklets, public spaces n 5th Ave. Fr visitrs, t. Bikes, trucks, buses chabitating in cnventin center neighbrhd with expansin. Safety, ease f transit. Wayfinding - neighbrhd identity. Optin D did mst fr transit initially, but willing t pick best elements amng ptins. Signal imprvements n 2nd Ave are gd. Sidewalk/curb reductin f 5th Ave - shuld be maintaining/expanding. Cnstructin timing and hw it fits int near-term strategies. Lks durable. Want mre frm B - stepping stne t D. Mre transit pririty. Optin C. Keep: bus cuplet fr 4th/5th avenues if alleviates ptin D cncerns (fr B?). Replace general purpse lane with transit lane (5th Ave). Tw-way bike and transit capacity n 4th/5th avenues. One Center City Advisry Grup Mtg. 7 Page 4 f 5
What is the impact t sidewalks (reductin)? Mre detail n 5th Ave crss-sectins. Tree canpy. Retail and transit cnnectins transparency. Time savings fr 5th Ave passing lane (benefit) vs tw-lane cnfiguratin. Access t CID - impact frm 5th Ave changes (retail). 6th Ave: tw-way better fr pedestrians and mre detail t better understand hw this wrks. One Center City Advisry Grup Mtg. 7 Page 5 f 5