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Notice of Copyright Published and unpublished materials may be protected by Copyright Law (Title 17, U.S. Code). Any copies of published and unpublished materials provided by the Western History Collections are for research, scholarship, and study purposes only. Use of certain published materials and manuscripts is restricted by law, by reason of their origin, or by donor agreement. For the protection of its holdings, the Western History Collections also reserves the right to restrict the use of unprocessed materials, or books and documents of exceptional value and fragility. Use of any material is subject to the approval of the Curator. Citing Resources from the Western History Collections For citations in published or unpublished papers, this repository should be listed as the Western History Collections, University of Oklahoma, Norman, Oklahoma. An example of a proper citation: Oklahoma Federation of Labor Collection, M452, Box 5, Folder 2. Western History Collections, University of Oklahoma, Norman, Oklahoma.

BAKER, BARBARA ELIZABETH OANKON. INTERVIEW. 1008U 143

Form A-(S-149) DIOGRAPI'Y?GHM WOIiCS FaOGKBSS ADMINISTRATION ^ Indian-Pioneor History Project for Oklahoma BAHBABA KLIZAB.2H GAHHOH. INTSHnBS, Field Worker 1 s naiile Bora Lorrin This report made on (date) February 85 193 1. Name Mrs* Barbara Bllzabeth Gannon Baker 2. Post Office Address' SI Reno, Oklahoma 3» Residence address (or location) 420 West Hayes 4. DATE OF BIRTH: ' Month September Day 22 Year 5. Place of birth Holt, Qoqnty t Missouri 6. Name of Father Janes» Pannon Place of birth New Yorfc OtUr information at out father pied or diggpp^gtq^ g^ul 0 *** 1 WCg 7. Name of Mother Amanda J» flrldge Gannon Place of birth Kentualcy* Other information about mother Notes or complete narrative by the field worker dealing with the life and story of the person interviewed, Ref-~r to Manual for su,2i-csted subjects and questions. Continue on blank shoo-to if necessary and*attach firmly to this form. Number of sheets attached

145 BAKER, BARBARA BUZABWHi GANNON. INTERVIEW.. 10089 Nora Lorrin Investigator Tebruary 25, 1988 Interview with Mrs. Barbara Elizabeth Gannon Baker, 420 West Hayes, SI Reno, Oklahoma. I was born In Holt County, Missouri, September 22, 1862. My father, Jamas B* Gannon, was born in New York. I do not remember the date of hlsjblrth, but he was a Union soldier; about forty years of age when he was killed.a or disappeared during the Civil War* My mother, Amanda Jane Wrldge Gannon, was born in Kentucky, October 2, 1830, and died in 1908* My people moved from Missouri to Brown County, Kansas, and I grew up there. There were just two of us children* I was married to John W* Baker in Hiawatha, Kansas, December 29, 1831. and before we came to Oklahoma I was the mother of six children* While we wore living in Kansas we farmed, but always had to rent a farm from someone else, as we did not own any land* We were desirous of obtain* ing a home of our own and when the Cheyenne and Arapaho country was opened, in 1892, we thought that was our opportunity* My husband and step-brother cans overland to Oklahoma, In a covered wagon, bringing four horses,

BAKSB, BARBARA ELIZABETH GANNON* INTERVIEW. 10089 tedding, dishes and household belongings* The children and I came down on the train after my husband had bought a claim from Boone Johnson, paying 0440*00 for it* we landed at Okarohe, December 29, 1892* Our claim was located seven milea west and one mile south of Okarche* Before the children and I oame to Oklahoma, my husband had built a l i t t l e one-roon shanty,about 12 X 16 ft*, ao we put up two beds and "piled in n * Share, were eight persons in the family and it was pretty crowded in that little home but the children were small and didn't take up much room* We got our w.ter from the slough, hauling it in a barrel that was placed on runners with shafts, and it was hauled by one horse. We used this slough water unt i l we got our well dug* We got gyp water, but had to use it* We went to the Cheyenne country to get wood to. bum and we called it "squaw wood"* It was good wood and made good fires but the sticks were only about as big around as your wrist* We built a sod chicken house and a straw barn. We took six poles with forks at the top and set them

147 BAKSR, BARBARA ELIZABSTH GANNON. INTERVIEW. 10089 3 in the ground, putting poles around the top and then putting poles across the top and around the sides* We then covered the top and sides with-straw and it made a good windbreak and shut out the cold from our stock, but when it rained our old straw barn leaked like a sieve, so it was not so good'in wet-weather* After we got started, about the second year, we raised lots of hogs and chickens. We had some cattle and two good milch cows, so had all the butter and eggs we wanted and we also raised lots of vegetables* Okarche was our tradiag point and for the most part we did our trading with Heinsn and How, who ran a general merchandise store, selling &r:ceries, cloth- Ing, dry goods, etc* I have sold lots of eggs at 10 cents a dozen and many a pound of butter at seven cents a pound* We killed our ov.n moat end salted it down in' barrels and until we got our cave dug we would set our barrel of moat outside the house* The children would gather wild plums along the river and that was all the fruit we had until our orchard came Into bearing* We had apples, peaches and grapes; not so many apples but

148 BAKER, B&BBABA KUZABBTH GANNON. IHTKRVIER* 10069 4 lot* of peaches and grapes* We alao raised a lot of pie melons and used them In place of fruit, seasoning the aauoe with sugar and stick cinnamon* We raised some wheat, kaffir corn and maize, cut* ting the heads off the kaffir and maize and then cutting the stalks and stacking them Into shocks to be used later for fodder for the stock* We also raised millet for the chickens, cut.and stacked it as we did the wild hay* We also used the kaffir corn flour to make biscuits; it makes splendid bisoults t making a much darker bread but very palatable* tie made hominy out of the kaffir corn also, and it is very good if you get a good "do" on it* I would olean it thoroughly, then take the skins off with. a strong hot soda-water solution* Then It was handled just as other hominy, with lots of washings to get rid of the soda* I used to parch wheat and grind it in an old fashioned coffee mill and use it as a substitute for coffee, when we were out of coffee; it tasted like postum* We used to herd our cattle, before everybody got their crops fenced* For awhile they had seven cows

149 BAKEQ, BARBARA. ELIZABETH GANNON. INTERVIEW. 10069 i and I often took my knitting or same other hand work along with me whan I went to herd the cattle, I had a dog Along to help ma and, I had to do the herding on foot* When I was a girl in Kansas I used to ride herd on our cattle and often had to out my oun cattle oat of herds on the prairie* * When my husband built our home, the first one, he dug about three feet into the ground and set the house down In it* He thought it would be warmer, and less likely to be blown down. The windows were, just above the ground and there was just one door* One day my husband was gone, leaving me and the children at home* My oldest boy was sharpening an ax preparatory to cutting some wood, uhen three Indians in their war paint rode up on their ponits and stopped right in front of our door* Tho Indians sat on their ponies, jabbering with each other and peering down into our house, until it hod us about scared out of our wits* We couldn't get away as there was only the one door*' The Indiana did not try to came in but just sat there and looked

\ -' B&KSR, BARBARA ELIZABETH & HNOM. INTERVI3H.. 10089 150 6 at us* Then I remembered something that my nother had told me to do when I was a child, that if ever I was bothered with Indiana, to say "You-Tuckefc-Chee" to them and they would go away and leato BIB alone* So I went to the door and said, n You»Tuoket»Chee", and they wheeled their ponies and rode away* I do not know just what the words mean bat suppose that they mean to go away, but whatever they.neon, it worked* Hie Indians used to camp down on the North Canadian BlTer and wa could hear the drums and their voices sometimes when they were particularly hilarious* I hare gone to their camps lots of times, just to watch them* It was interesting to see their painted faces, their mode of living; squaws carrying their pe* poosea on their backs* their tepee tents, ponies end numerous dogs* They wore lovely beaded moccasins, kept their babies in beaded baskets that were made on a back board, and they could stand the baskets up against something. There was an opening for the baby's hsad, or face rather, and that was all* Khy the little things dldn*t suffer from the heat in suaoer is a mystery.

151 BAKER, BARBARA ELIZABETH GANNON. INTERVIEW. 10089 There were usually two or three fires going in the camps and sometimes mora, tho burning wood making a rather pleasant odor* The Indians used to come by our claim when the money and supplies were being distributed at Fort Reno; thifc usually took about two weeks, during ishich time they went streaming by daily* The longest train of Indians that I remember to have seen was about a idle long* They would be in wagons, springftt.gons, on ponies ana on foot* They would have their tents, tent poles, and the poles for their tepees in the backs of thair w gons, and everything all set to camp v&en they got to Fort Reno* Hher&~ ever there were Indians, there we/q also numerous dogs* Most of the Indians would have their faces painted with red, blue and yellow, sometimes black paint* They also wore the flashiest colored shawls and blankets, red, blue, black in fact, all colors aai combinations of colors wero represented* Though the mtterns or designs e typically Indian, once in a tkile you would so a Indian wearing a.kite sheet in lieu of a blanket, that

BAKBR, BARBARA KUZABBTH GANNON. IHTEHTOSW. 10080 is perhaps it was once tfoite. They wore the shawls and blankets, summer or winter end often they were made of wool. Tha homesteaders did not have a variety of ssnuaemoats, much of their good times consisted in visiting each other in their own neighborhood. We went to church when there was any and the services were uaually held in the schoolh uses, tiy children attended the star School awhile and later went to the Sfound Valley School in district No, 60. This school was taught by Miss Pearl Cruaan, daughter of Mr, Clarence Cruzan, a tall dafe haired and dark-eyed man who used to run a sorghum mill. He made about twenty gallons of sorghum for us one time*. About all the game there was around our jlace ware rabbits, ducks and quail; farther west there were some prairie chickens, but not to amount to anything around where we lived. The coyotes howled -,o much at night that we could not sleep. I've waked up many a night by their howling close up around the house* The children used to have a lot of fun mocking them. They would get out in the yard of an evening and give a o yote call and in

t rr«> BAKER, BABBAKA SLIllABifTH GANNON. IHT RVIfiW. 10089 9 a few momenta the coyotes out on the prairie would he answering them* The coyote has such a choppy bark or howl.at times that two of them can, and often do, sound lite a dozen or more, and my children became very proficient at mocking them, sometimfts I would hear them and wouldn't kno«whether it was the kids or the coyotes* An old maid oi' the n&rro of Annie Barker lived across the road from us and thei*e was a colony of prairie dogs on her land that occupied about fifty or sixty acres* These prairie dogs would sometimes nove over on our side or the road and when thoy did my hus* band or some of the bo;, s would go and kill them* They used that prairie dog colony as a 3ort of we-ther barometer* They could tell what the w&ather was going to be by wi.tching r,ha activities of the prairie dogs* You could always depend on them, if they became very active all over the colony, pushing fresh dirt up around their holes, you could depend on it that a storm was on the way*. Ibe prairie dog town was full of rattlesnakes and owls* The owls wa^ about the size of BCi^ech owls* i do not know whether the snakes and owls lived with the

154 BAKEH, BARBARA ELIZABETH GANHOU* INTERVIEW. 10089 10 prairie doge in their holes or not, but I do know that wherever there is a prairie dog town there will also be rattlesnakes and uuls and they seem to be on good terns with each other* One of our neighbors lost an infant in the eerly days before t iere were an> cemeteries and they buried the little child in their pasture* We used to have hail storms, but we wore never completely hailed out at any ti.^«we lived on this claim for thirty years and then sold it and buught another faxm southwest of Calumet and lived on that one for three years* Before we left tho first farm however, we had it pretty well improved, with a good house, though small» a barn, granaries and other improvements* My husband died isay 16, 1982* tie still own the farm southwest of Calumet, but my boys prefer to live in Hi. Reno*