Technical Committee on Heat Recovery Steam Generators and Other Combustion Turbine Exhaust Systems

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1 Technical Committee on Heat Recovery Steam Generators and Other Combustion Turbine Exhaust Systems Date: March 5, 2010 To: Technical Committee on Heat Recovery Steam Generators and Other Combustion Turbine Exhaust Systems From: Denise Beach, Staff Liaison/Senior Engineer Re: Agenda Package March ROC Meeting Enclosed is the agenda package for the March 25-26, 2010 meeting in Orlando, FL for the Report on Comments (ROC) meeting. Please ensure that you have reviewed the comments in advance, not only for technical merit, but also if you believe there are any other committees to which duplicate comments should be sent. The agenda and comments will be posted on the committee webpage. Some items to bring to the meeting include: Agenda packet with comments; your copy of the NFPA 85 Fall 2010 Report on Proposals; your copy of NFPA 85; any previous copies of NFPA 85 you may wish to reference. Optional items that are sometimes useful include previous ROP/ROCs if handy. If you have any questions or comments, please feel free to reach me at (617) or by at You can reach the HRS TC Chair, John Van Name at (212) or by at Live Meeting Web Access. TC Members participating via Live Meeting should have received a separate with instructions on connecting through the web. If you do not have the , please follow these steps to connect to the meeting:

2 Technical Committee on Heat Recovery Steam Generators and Other Combustion Turbine Exhaust Systems AGENDA DoubleTree Resort Orlando Hotel International Drive Orlando, FL March 25-26, Chair s welcome, call to order, and opening remarks at 8:30 a.m. 2. Self-Introduction of Committee Members and Guests 3. Approval of Minutes from the June 15-16, 2009 ROP Meeting in Quincy, MA. See E- Committee web page to view. 4. Staff Liaison Report A. Committee membership update (For the period May 1, 2009 March 5, 2010) Name Category Change Date Steven Graf M (Alternate to J. Stevens) Appointment 08/05/2009 Miguel Cancelado M (Alternate to P. Souers) Appointment 08/05/2009 (Total Voting Members 21; M=33%, SE=33%, U=24%; I=10%) B. Revision Cycle Review and timeline (Attachment A) 5. Old Business 6. New Business A. NFPA Patent Policy and GE Patent Application (Attachment B) B. Review BCS-HRS Committee Scope and Document Scope (Attachment C) C. Review of public comments (see enclosed Acrobat file) D. Creation of Committee Comments (See Attachment D for TCC Notes) i. Interlock System Initiation - The TCC revised the action on Proposal (25) to include language accepted in Proposal (CP9). The TCC also recommended that the BCS-FUN and BCS-HRS Technical Committees reconsider the language of and (CP105) respectively, in light of the new definition for transmitter. ii. Other Committee Comments 7. Other Items? 8. Date/Location of Next Meeting. (NFPA 85 is currently on a 4-year revision cycle.) 9. Adjournment.

3 ATTACHMENT A: ROP AGENDA NFPA 85 Revision Cycle Fall 2010 NFPA 85 F2010 (last cycle F06) [BCS-AAC] Intent to enter cycle January 9, 2009 Proposal Closing May 8, 2009 (May 29 orig date) ROP Published and Posted December 28, 2009 Comment Closing March 5, 2010 ROC Published and Posted August 27, 2010 ROC TC Meetings (between March 5 and April 9, 2010) FUN ROC (Tampa) 2 days March 18-19, 2010 HRS ROC (Orlando) 2 days March 25-26, 2010 MBB ROC (Tempe) 2 days March 30-31, 2010 FBB ROC teleconference/live Meeting April 5, 2010 PFS ROC teleconference/live Meeting April 2, 2010 SBB ROC teleconference/live Meeting April 6, 2010 STO ROC teleconference/live Meeting April 2, 2010 TCC ROC (Barberton, OH, tentative) June 2-3, 2010 Intent to make motion (ITMAM) closing October 22, 2010 Issuance of standard - NO controversy January 28, 2011 (publ. bit later) NFPA WSCE Meeting with NITMAM June 4-9, 2011 Issuance of Standard with controversy July 29, 2011 (published bit later)

4 The ANSI/NFPA Patent Policy An Introduction to Patents and Standards d for the NFPA Technical Committee Member Patent Policy PPT; M. Brodoff; version 2/24/ ANSI/NFPA Patent Policy ANSI = The American National Standards Institute The NFPA, as an ANSI-accredited consensus standards developer, adheres to the ANSI patent policy. Patent Policy PPT; M. Brodoff; version 2/24/

5 ANSI/NFPA Patent Policy Section 3.0 of the ANSI Essential Requirements: Due process requirements Under the Patent Policy, an NFPA standard can include an essential patent claim if the Technical Committee concludes that technical reasons justify this approach AND the patent holder (or other controller of patent rights) provides NFPA with certain assurances. essential patent claim = a patent claim whose use would be required for compliance with the standard. Patent Policy PPT; M. Brodoff; version 2/24/ ANSI/NFPA Patent Policy If NFPA receives notice that a proposed p or existing NFPA standard requires or may require the use of an essential patent claim, NFPA must receive from the patent holder (or controller), in writing, either: A disclaimer to the effect that the patent holder does not hold and does not currently intend holding any essential patent claim; OR Assurances that a license to the essential patent claim will be made available: Without compensation; OR Under reasonable terms and conditions that are demonstrably free of any unfair discrimination (see the ANSI Patent Policy for further details) Patent Policy PPT; M. Brodoff; version 2/24/

6 ANSI/NFPA Patent Policy Disclosures of essential patent claims should be made by the patent holder, but others may also notify NFPA if they believe that a proposed or existing NFPA standard includes an essential patent claim. Notifications to NFPA should be in writing directed to the NFPA General Counsel and should include as much information as possible, including the basis for the belief that t the patent t is essential i.e. required for compliance with AN NFPA standard. Patent Policy PPT; M. Brodoff; version 2/24/ ANSI/NFPA Patent Policy Participants in the NFPA codes and standards development should disclose essential patent claims. NFPA encourages early disclosure because it provides NFPA Technical Committees with the greatest opportunity to evaluate the propriety of standardizing the patented technology and also to consider alternatives ti to embedding essential patent t claims into the standard. Patent Policy PPT; M. Brodoff; version 2/24/

7 Standards and Patents: Its not just about the ANSI/NFPA Patent Policy Patent Policy aside, NFPA encourages participants to inform Technical Committees concerning patent claims, essential or otherwise, that they are aware of that would be helpful for Technical Committees to know about in deciding how to write and revise standards. Why? As with any commercial or financial interests, disclosure concerning interests in relevant patents may be necessary for others to accurately evaluate the proposals, arguments and information you provide to the Technical Committee(s). ( (See, esp., Guide for Participants in the NFPA Process at 3.1(e): In order that the points of view and information participants contribute to the NFPA Codes and Standards Development Process can be accurately evaluated by others, participants should always endeavor to make known their business, commercial, organizational, or other affiliations that might affect their interests or points of view. (Cont.) Patent Policy PPT; M. Brodoff; version 2/24/ Standards and Patents: Its not just about the ANSI/NFPA Patent Policy Knowledge concerning patents helps Technical Committees to develop, as far as practicable, flexible, performance-based standards that meet user needs. (See Regulations Governing Committee Projects at Each TC shall, as far as practicable, prepare Documents in terms of required performance, avoiding specifications of materials, devices, or methods so phrased as to preclude obtaining the desired results by other means. ) Patent Policy PPT; M. Brodoff; version 2/24/

8 Some Final Thoughts Consider any available information about patents in your committee discussions and actions. Before embedding patented technology in standards, consider alternatives to requiring use of essential patent claims. Document your actions and reasoning in your Committee Reports/minutes. For more information, consult with your staff liaison and/or contact NFPA General Counsel. Patent Policy Powerpoint; M. Brodoff; version 2/24/

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46 ATTACHMENT C: ROC AGENDA BCS-HRS TC Scope Review At the BCS-AAC ROP Meeting, the TCC requested that the Technical Committees review their respective scopes and consider modifying them to exactly match the document scope. [NFPA Staff Note: Section of the Regulations Governing Committee Projects states that The responsibilities of a TCC are recommending changes to existing Scopes of TCs. Therefore it will be the responsibility of the TCC to recommend any changes in TC scope to the NFPA Standards Council.] BCS-HRS Committee Scope: This Committee shall have primary responsibility for documents covering the operation of heat recovery steam generators and other combustion turbine exhaust systems, and the related reduction of combustion system hazards and prevention of explosions. This includes all fuels at any heat input rate. BCS-HRS Document Responsibility (as published in the F2010 ROP): 1.1* Scope. This code applies to (3) Fired or unfired steam generators used to recover heat from combustion turbines [heat recovery steam generators (HRSGs)], and to other combustion turbine exhaust systems at any heat input rate.

47 Report on Comments November 2010 NFPA Log #6a BCS-HRS Dale P. Evely, Southern Company Services, Inc Revise text to read as follows: An HRSG, heat exchanger, or emissions control system, alone or in combination, and their associated ductwork All ductwork from the combustion turbine exhaust to the stack inlet., including any emission control systems contained within the exhaust flow path. This definition was proposed to be revised by the BCS-HRS Technical Committee during their ROP meeting but the proposed wording was a bit ambiguous. The above proposed revision for this definition needs to be reviewed by both the BCS-HRS TC as well as the BCS-FUN TC. 85- Log #22 BCS-HRS Technical Correlating Committee on Boiler Combustion System Hazards, The TCC instructs the BCS-HRS Technical Committee to review paragraph in light of the new definition for transmitter. This is a direction from the Technical Correlating Committee on Boiler Combustion System Hazards in accordance with and of the Regulations Governing Committee Projects. Printed on 3/11/2010 1

48 Report on Comments November 2010 NFPA Log #12 BCS-HRS Gordon G. Gaetke, The Dow Chemical Company Revise text: * System 2 Gaseous Fuels with pressurized pipe section. Triple Block and Double Vent valve arrangement filled with an inert gas or air and maintained at a pressure that prevents gaseous fuel from entering the Combustion Turbine or duct burner in accordance with the following requirements: (1)* Combustion turbine normal shutdown. (2) Air or inert gas shall be introduced to create and maintain a pressurized pipe section between the middle and most downstream block valves. (3) Fuel gas block and vent valve positions shall be continuously monitored. If continuous monitoring is lost or any valve deviates from its assigned position, Purge Credit is lost and subsequent start of the Combustion Turbine requires a Combustion Turbine Purge prior to light-off in accordance with (4) Pressures in the two double block and vent pipe sections shall be continuously monitored. If the continuous monitoring is lost or the differential pressure downstream of across the middle block valve decreases increases to less more than 3 psid above the upstream pressure, Purge Credit is lost and subsequent start of the Combustion Turbine requires a Combustion Turbine Purge prior to light-off in accordance with (5) Combustion Turbine Purge Credit period is maintained as long as the conditions in (2), (3), and (4) are met. (6) Provisions shall be made to ensure that fuel cannot enter the air or inert gas supply line at any time When establishing a combustion turbine purge credit in accordance with , the following procedure shall be implemented for gaseous fuels (System 2): (A) Open both vent valves of the combustion turbine and duct burner fuel supply. (B) Admit the blocking medium to purge any remaining fuel until the fuel level is less than 25% of the LEL. (C) Close both vent valves and the middle block valve creating high pressure plugs the downstream (header) vent valve. (D) Close the air or inert gas supply. Establish and maintain the required blocking pressure (E) Monitor the differential pressure across the middle block valve and the pressure between the upstream and middle block valves. If air or inert gas pressure is maintained between the middle and downstream block valves, differential pressure monitoring will not detect a leak, assuming air or inert gas pressure was established upstream of the middle block valve. By charging up the system from the upstream through downstream block valves, then closing the middle block valve and isolating the air or inert gas; two high pressure plugs are created and valve integrity can be monitored. Text was modified to portray this arrangement. From the original text of (4) it is not clear what the intended pressure is, during the Purge Credit, between the upstream and middle block valves (between V1 and V2 in diagram). Whether that cavity is vented down to atmospheric pressure or at air or inert gas pressure. If atmospheric pressure, the accuracy of detecting a change from atmospheric pressure would be difficult with a transmitter that also has to measure full line pressure to the combustion turbine. Also, DPT would be a large value and difficult to detect a deviation. If established at air or inert gas pressure, then the DPT could detect a leaking vent valve (V4). However, the text says to monitor pressure downstream of the middle block valve for a decrease to less than 3 psid above the upstream pressure (??). If the high pressure plug is only created but not maintained, text in (5) would be changed by deleting a reference to (2). In reference to the combustion turbine should be added. System 2 is intended for both the combustion turbine and duct burner as stated in Other proposed text revisions are intended to avoid ambiguity to An option for the committee is to move to the appendix suggesting a possible means to setup and monitor the high pressure plug with clear step-by-step references to the diagram in a similar manner as done for System 1. Printed on 3/11/2010 2

49 Report on Comments November 2010 NFPA Log #13 BCS-HRS Gordon G. Gaetke, The Dow Chemical Company Revise text: * System 3 Liquid Fuels with pressurized pipe section. Triple Block and Double Drain valve arrangement filled with an inert gas or air and maintained at a pressure that prevents liquid fuel from entering the Combustion Turbine or duct burner in accordance with the following requirements: (1)* Combustion turbine normal shutdown. (2) Air or inert gas shall be introduced to create and maintain a pressurized pipe section between the middle and most downstream block valves. (3) Liquid fuel block and drain valve positions shall be continuously monitored. If continuous monitoring is lost or any valve deviates from its assigned position, Purge Credit is lost and subsequent start of the Combustion Turbine requires a Combustion Turbine Purge prior to light-off in accordance with (4) Pressures in the two double block and drain pipe sections shall be continuously monitored. If the continuous monitoring is lost or the differential pressure downstream of across the middle block valve decreases increases to less more than 3 psid above the upstream pressure, Purge Credit is lost and subsequent start of the Combustion Turbine requires a Combustion Turbine Purge prior to light-off in accordance with (5) Combustion Turbine Purge Credit period is maintained as long as the conditions in (2), (3), and (4) are met. (6) Provisions shall be made to ensure that fuel cannot enter the air or inert gas supply line at any time When establishing a combustion turbine purge credit in accordance with , the following procedure shall be implemented for liquid fuels (System 3) after scavenging in accordance with section : (A) Open both drain valves of the combustion turbine and duct burner fuel supply. (B) Admit the blocking medium to purge any remaining fuel. (C) Close both drain valves and the middle block valve creating high pressure plugs the downstream (header) vent valve. (D) Close the air or inert gas supply. Establish and maintain the required blocking pressure (E) Monitor the differential pressure across the middle block valve and the pressure between the upstream and middle block valves. If air or inert gas pressure is maintained between the middle and downstream block valves, differential pressure monitoring will not detect a leak, assuming air or inert gas pressure was established upstream of the middle block valve. By charging up the system from the upstream through downstream block valves, then closing the middle block valve and isolating the air or inert gas; two high pressure plugs are created and valve integrity can be monitored. Text was modified to portray this arrangement. From the original text of (4) it is not clear what the intended pressure is, during the Purge Credit, between the upstream and middle block valves (between V1 and V2 in diagram). Whether that cavity is vented down to atmospheric pressure or at air or inert gas pressure. If atmospheric pressure, the accuracy of detecting a change from atmospheric pressure would be difficult with a transmitter that also has to measure full line pressure to the combustion turbine. Also, DPT would be a large value and difficult to detect a deviation. If established at air or inert gas pressure, then the DPT could detect a leaking drain valve (V4). However, the text says to monitor pressure downstream of the middle block valve for a decrease to less than 3 psid above the upstream pressure (??). If the high pressure plug is only created but not maintained, text in (5) would be changed by deleting a reference to (2). In reference to the combustion turbine should be added. System 2 is intended for both the combustion turbine and duct burner as stated in Other proposed text revisions are intended to avoid ambiguity to An option for the committee is to move to the appendix suggesting a possible means to setup and monitor the high pressure plug with clear step-by-step references to the diagram in a similar manner as done for System 1. Printed on 3/11/2010 3

50 Report on Proposals F2010 Copyright, NFPA NFPA 85 to the duct burner fuel train. The combustion turbine purge credit can reduce the required start-up time and thermally-induced stress on the HRSG by not requiring a full HRSG/ exhaust system purge immediately prior to start-up. Three psid provides a measurable differential without excessive blocking gas consumption. In addition, the three psid threshold has been evaluated and is not sensitive to gas entering the exhaust. This threshold has been successfully deployed in the field by at least one manufacturer. Committee Meeting Action: Accept Number Eligible to Vote: 21 Ballot Results: Affirmative: 18 Ballot Not Returned: 3 Balsbaugh, R., Lefton, S., Souers, P Log #CP105 BCS-HRS Final Action: Accept ( (1)) TCC Action: The TCC instructs the BCS-HRS Technical Committee to review paragraph in light of the new definition for transmitter. Submitter: Technical Committee on Heat Recovery Steam Generators, Recommendation: Revise text to read as follows: Interlock functions shall be initiated by one or more of the following: (1) A switches or transmitter independent of control functions and signals. Substantiation: The TC added the phrase or transmitter to clarify the provision in light of (Log #CP203) and (Log #CP204) which will add definitions for switch and transmitter to Chapter 3. It is the intent of the TC to allow a single transmitter to be used if independent of control functions. Editorially, the terminology was changed to singular to clarify the intent of the provision that a single switch or transmitter is adequate. Committee Meeting Action: Accept Number Eligible to Vote: 21 Ballot Results: Affirmative: 18 Ballot Not Returned: 3 Balsbaugh, R., Lefton, S., Souers, P Log #67 BCS-HRS Final Action: Accept in Principle ( and ) Submitter: Randy J. Kleen, General Electric Company Recommendation: Combustion turbine exhaust system per definition depicts the duct work of HRSG and/or SCR exhaust systems up to the stack shall be purged. No problem here Combustion Turbine Exhaust Systems. All ductwork from the combustion turbine exhaust to the stack, including any emission control systems contained within the exhaust flow path. However, when reading the section in GT purge with HRSG or SCR systems, it depicts that the entire duct work - inclusive of stack exit shall be purged. Recommend removing the stack exit In no case shall the volume in (2) be less than the volume of the HRSG enclosure between the combustion turbine outlet and the outlet of the first evaporator section in the HRSG. For other combustion turbine exhaust systems without heat recovery, the purge volume shall extend to the stack exit. Substantiation: Gas turbine users and OEMs with HRSG or SCR systems should not need to factor in the exhaust stack for purge volume calculations per intended definition Committee Meeting Action: Accept in Principle Revise text to read as follows: In no case shall the volume in (2) be less than the volume of the HRSG enclosure between the combustion turbine outlet and the outlet of the first evaporator section in the HRSG. For other combustion turbine exhaust systems without heat recovery, the purge volume shall extend to the stack exit. Committee Statement: The TC accepts the proposal of the submitter, noting that the only change proposed is to delete the word exit from section Number Eligible to Vote: 21 Ballot Results: Affirmative: 18 Ballot Not Returned: 3 Balsbaugh, R., Lefton, S., Souers, P Log #73 BCS-HRS Final Action: Accept in Principle in Part ( (4)) Submitter: Randy J. Kleen, General Electric Company Recommendation: Revise text as follows: * 4) Pressures in the two double block and vent pipe sections shall be continuously monitored. If the continuous monitoring is lost or the pressure downstream of the middle block valve decreases to less than 25 3 to 5 psi, in accordance to Manufactures, above the upstream pressure, purge credit is lost and subsequent start of the Combustion Turbine requires a Combustion Turbine Purge prior to light-off in accordance with Substantiation: Request: Revise the language in this section to monitor the downstream cavity High, where instruments have adequate resolution and also to monitor the Low pressure cavity Low sufficient to prove that the low pressure is below the high pressure. Reason 1: The Heavy duty GT team has proposed that the low cavity protection be at 3 to 5 psi based on experience with the transmitters provided and documented Design practices. And has set the high cavity pressure to accommodate GE required proving of blocking medium flow during purge credit formation. Reason 2: Manufactures use highly accurate pressure transmitters that have the ability to close the loop accurately on pressure monitoring points and prove the pressure is maintained 3 to 5 psi continuously. Transmitter accuracy and deployment has been proven based on manufactures experience. Committee Meeting Action: Accept in Principle in Part This proposal has been incorporated into (Log #CP101). Committee Statement: This proposal was in response to action taken during the pre-rop meeting on (Log #CP101), not to any existing text in the 2007 edition of NFPA 85. The TC agrees with the submitter that the threshold pressure should be 3 psid, but did not accept the phrase in accordance with manufacturer s guidance. The TC feels that specifying the minimum differential pressure in the Code is sufficient and all users should defer to manufacturer s instructions if a higher differential pressure is needed for the equipment design. This proposal was incorporated into (Log #CP101). Number Eligible to Vote: 21 Ballot Results: Affirmative: 18 Ballot Not Returned: 3 Balsbaugh, R., Lefton, S., Souers, P Log #83 BCS-HRS Final Action: Accept in Principle ( ) Submitter: Christopher J. Lech, ALSTOM Power Inc., Don Bairley Recommendation: Revise text to read as follows: Fired HRSG A purge of both the HRSG enclosure and the bypass system shall be completed as required in prior to the admission of combustion turbine exhaust gas into HRSG Where HRSG isolation is continuously maintained, the combustion turbine shall be permitted to purge and operate with combustion turbine exhaust through the bypass stack When HRSG isolation is removed, a purge of the HRSG enclosure shall be performed as required by , except as permitted in In the event that the HRSG isolation is disabled and the combustion turbine can continue to be operated with an exhaust temperature at least 56oC (100oF) lower than the auto ignition temperature of fuels designed for use in the specific combustion turbine and duct burner, the combustion turbine exhaust gas at this lower temperature shall be permitted to be used to purge the HRSG If damper(s) operation or other cause(s) results in the exhaust mass flow through the HRSG falling below the purge rate required in 8.8.5, a repurge as required in shall be performed prior to lighting the duct burner When it is desired to bypass the HRSG for a period of time and then return the HRSG to service by means of damper positioning without a power interruption, one of the following conditions shall be met A continuous flow of at least the purge rate of exhaust or fresh air shall be maintained through the HRSG when the combustion turbine is operating The combustion turbine is in operation without trips or misfires and either of the following systems is incorporated and monitored. Option 1. Triple Block/Bleed Fuel System with following on line checks : (1) Continuously monitor position of fuel gas stop and vent valves by an operating control system, if any valve deviates from its assigned position, a re-purge as required in shall be performed. (2) Continuously monitor pressure in the two double block and bleed cavities by an operating control system and if pressure increases above x, burner purge credit is cancelled, a re-purge as required shall be performed. (3) Perform a gas leak test (Bottle Test) prior to each burner start and following each normal shutdown. Test the two gas block valves and the gas vent valve closest to burner element for high leakage during start-up and shutdown by monitoring pressure in gas vent line. Option 2: Triple Block/Bleed valve system with the cavity closest to burner element filled with an inert gas and maintained at a pressure that prevents gas from entering the HRSG (two pressure measurements): (1) Continuously monitor position of fuel gas stop and vent valves by an operating control system and if any valve deviates from its assigned position, a re-purge as required in shall be performed. (2) Pressure inside double block and bleed cavities are monitored continuously by an operating control system and if the pressure in the upstream cavity increases above x or the pressure in the inert gas filled cavity decreases below y, a re-purge as required in shall be performed. Option 3: Triple Block/Bleed valve system with the cavity closest to burner element filled with an inert gas and maintained at a pressure that prevents gas from entering the HRSG (differential pressure measurement): (1) Continuously monitor position of fuel gas stop and vent valves by an operating control system and if any valve deviates from its assigned position, a re-purge as required in shall be performed. (2) Differential pressure between inert gas cavity and vented cavity is