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1 θωερτψυιοπασδφγηϕκλζξχϖβνµθωερτψυι οπασδφγηϕκλζξχϖβνµθωερτψυιοπασδφγη ϕκλζξχϖβνµθωερτψυιοπασδφγηϕκλζξχϖβ SMA νµθωερτψυιοπασδφγηϕκλζξχϖβνµθωερτψ υιοπασδφγηϕκλζξχϖβνµθωερτψυιοπασδφ Newsletter γηϕκτψυιοπασδφγηϕκλζξχϖβνµθωερτψυι οπασδφγηϕκλζξχϖβνµθωερτψυιοπασδφγη Volume 44, Number 12, December 2017 ϕκλζξχϖβνµθωερτψυιοπασδφγηϕκλζξχϖβ νµθωερτψυιοπασδφγηϕκλζξχϖβνµθωερτψ Contacts υιοπασδφγηϕκλζξχϖβνµθωερτψυιοπασδφ President: Bill Schultheis: (714) Vice President: Mike DiCerbo: (714) mike.dicerbo@att.net Secretary: Paul Payne: (310) γηϕκλζξχϖβνµθωερτψυιοπασδφγηϕκλζξχ Treasurer: Larry Van Es: (714) larry@uswheel.com Editor: Don Dressel: (909) roebuckdres4@gamil.com. ϖβνµθωερτψυιοπασδφγηϕκλζξχϖβνµθωε Web Manager: Doug Tolbert: (949) WEB PAGE ρτψυιοπασδφγηϕκλζξχϖβνµρτψυιοπασδφ γηϕκλζξχϖβνµθωερτψυιοπασδφγηϕκλζξχ Meeting Wed., Sept. 20, 7 PM, Red Cross Building, 1207 N. Lemon, Fullerton, CA ϖβνµθωερτψυιοπασδφγηϕκλζξχϖβνµθωε ρτψυιοπασδφγηϕκλζξχϖβνµθωερτψυιοπα σδφγηϕκλζξχϖβνµθωερτψυιοπασδφγηϕκλ ζξχϖβνµθωερτψυιοπασδφγηϕκλζξχϖβνµθ

2 WORK IN PROGRESS November 15, 2017 Reporter: Dave Yotter HMS SURPRISE 1796 Chris Carl HMS Surprise was the ship chosen by author Patrick O Brian to restore Captain Lucky Jack Aubrey of the Aubrey-Maturin series to his place as a captain and eventually see him raise his flag as an admiral of the Royal Navy. Surprise is an important element of the series, both because of her importance to the running plotline, and because of the emotional attachment she has earned among fans of the series. For the 2003 film Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World, the role of Surprise was filled by the replica of HMS Rose, which was purchased by the film studio and modified for the role. The film relates that Aubrey had served aboard her as a midshipman in 1785, when the real Surprise had not yet been launched. The book HMS Surprise by O Brian also mentions Aubrey being a midshipman aboard Surprise. The series has the Surprise in service until O Brian s extended fictional year of 1812, using the latitude of fiction in The Reverse of the Medal. In that era, the Royal Navy commissioned a 38-gun frigate by this name in September The fictional Surprise is sold out of service in The Reverse of the Medal, being purchased by Stephen Maturin and employed first as a letter of marquee and later as His Majesty s hired ship Surprise under Aubrey s command. Maturin agrees to sell the Surprise to Aubrey in The Nutmeg of Consolation, though later novels suggest that never transpired and Maturin continued to own the ship. Surprise s ultimate fictional fate is unknown although she was still at sea in Blue at the Mizzen, when Aubrey receives news of his promotion to rearadmiral of the blue in her great cabin at the end of the book. (Wikipedia) Surprise has now been declared FINISHED! Chris has declared victory after 2.45 years. And it looks like we have witnessed the conversion of a 20-year plastic modeler to wood in the process. He did say that there were more than a few techniques learned over the years that were transferable to wooden ship modeling. One of these was the finishing of the window detail for the great cabin. Your reporter missed some of the details but it had to do with printing the details on acetate (I think) in black and white and then an overlay in

3 yellow or white paper(?). The last details added were gun port lids and the anchors. The anchors require details necessary for catting, fishing and storage as well as securing and routing the cable. A long discussion occurred on the necessity of building a case for the model. A case has a huge advantage over other methods of protecting the model from damage and dirt/dust. A close-fitting case, typically an acrylic top with a wood base will take up little more room than a soft vinyl cover and give much greater protection. Even just removing a soft cover for viewing invites damage to delicate rigging and does little to protect the model from cats and other such critters. Chris mentioned going to Tustin Awards ( to look for base material. Your reporter visited Tustin Awards and ordered some new name plates for several of his models. These will be made from laser etched wood for two models and acrylic for two models. This should be an interesting alternative to the more traditional engraved brass plate. They were most cooperative and helpful although I do not know if they would be a good source for the clear acrylic display covers such as the ones produced by Plexi Displays in La Habra. Schooner Painting Bob Penikas Bob brought in another painting he had done to keep busy while he was under orders to keep clear of his garage workshop. The painting was done in acrylic on 11 X 14-inch canvas panel. The reference was a photograph sent by a photographer friend. He was interested in potential identification of the subject. This time the vessel appears to be a schooner and as the photograph was taken locally it was thought that it may be The Swift of Ipswitch, although the Swift most often is pictured as a topsail schooner. Swift of Ipswich is owned and operated by the Los Angeles Maritime Institute s TopSail Youth Program as a sail training vessel for at-risk youth. Egyptian Solar Boar Don Dressel Don brought in his completed model of the Egyptian Solar Boar, a 1/72 scale Woody Joe kit by Woody Joe of Japan. Don indicated it was a real fun build, as has been his experience with all the Woody Joe kits he has built. All the parts fit together very well and working with the Japanese cedar is very pleasant. Dona also discussed the plexi-glass case he used to finalize the case with a wooden base cut to size with the help of your reporter. The case was an old one Don had used to take a model to Japan a few years ago and it fit the model well, so it was re-used. The holes in the top of the case were covered by the Egyptian symbol, which was gold leafed. The model was constructed using Titebond wood glue instead of CA glue, which apparently the Japanese prefer. It made things a little more difficult with the construction, but Don thinks the Titebond glue is better than CA.

4 The actual boat itself is really the Ship of Cheops, a pharaoh of Egypt, although it is called The Solar Boat of Cheops. It was found buried in a pit next to one of the pyramids in Egypt in many pieces resembling a giant j wooden jigsaw puzzle that was solved by Ahmed Youssef Moustafa, and Egyptian Archaeologist. More information can be obtained for those interested in the book The Boat Beneath the Pyramid by Nancy Jenkins. Don did relate that one of the main interests in this model was due to the fact that he went to Egypt a number of years ago and saw the real thing. After visiting the boat, he went to the Egyptian Museum where he wanted to purchase a small model of the boat, but was not given permission to do so by she who must be obeyed. Thus, he was very pleased to discover that Woody Joe had subsequently released a model of this boat, which, of course, he had to purchase and build! The plans and detailed photo s of the build supplied by Woody Joe made the kit easy to build, the only caution being to be careful not to glue something together that should not be done (usually in red Japanese in the instructions. U-453 Kriegsmarine Type VIIC Steve Lund German submarine U-453 was a type VIIC U-boat built for Nazi Germany s Kriegsmarine for service during World War II. She was laid down on 4 July 1940 by Deutsche Werke in Kiel as yard number 284, launched on 30 April 1941 and commissioned on 26 June 1941 under Kapitanieutnant Egon-Reiner von Schlippenbach (Knight s Cross). The boat s service began on 26 June 1941 with training as part of the 7 th U-boat Flotilla, followed by active service until being transferred to the 29 th Flotilla on 1 January 1942, based in La Spezia in Italy. German Type VIIC submarines were preceded by the shorter Type VIIB submarines, U-453 had a displacement of 769 tones when at the surface and 871 tones while submerged. She had a total length of 220 ft., a pressure hull length of 165 ft., a beam of 20 ft., a height of 31 ft., and a draught of 15 ft. The submarine was powered by two Germaniawerft F46 fourstroke, six-cylinder supercharged diesel engines producing a total of 2,060 to kw; (2.760 to 3,160 shp) for use while surfaced, two Siemens-Schuckert GU 343/38-8 doubleacting electric motors producing a total of550 kw: (740 shp) for use while submerged. She had two shafts and two 4 ft. propellers. The boat was capable of operating at depths of up to 750 ft. The submarine had a maximum surface speed of 17.7 knots and a maximum submerged speed of 7.6 knots. When submerged, the boat could operate for 80 nautical miles at 4 knots. When surfaced, she could travel 8,500 nautical miles at 10 knots. U-453

5 was fitted with five 21 in. torpedo tubes (four fitted at the bow and one at the stern), fourteen torpedoes, one 88 mm 5K C/35 naval gun, 220 rounds, and a 2 cm C/30 antiaircraft gun. The boat had a complement of between forty-four and sixty. Steve is building his U-453 model in 1:35 scale from a kit built fiberglass hull. The boat will not be a full diver and is intended to operate on the surface only. The hull is free flooding and gets its flotation from Styrofoam and lots of ballast. The DC motors work under water and the controls operate via waterproof servos. There is a motor for each propeller and both are operated from a single speed controller as having separate reversing motors has little effect on turning radius. Lots of time and money were spent on getting correct deck gun, drew and bridge details in place. Steve was pleased with how the flag turned out. Silkspan was used which was glued to a regular sheet of copier paper. This assembly was run through the printer and then the flag was trimmed off and sprayed with Dullcoat to fix the colors. Catalan Ship, NAO Bill Schultheis America s Cup Entrant John Simmons Bill is proceeding on his Nao of ca in 1 30 scale. The model is being built from a Woody Joe kit. He is now finished with the planking which is really a strop wood veneer being applied over the initial layer of planking. Due to the roundness of the hull this was challenging in the ends of the ship. The technique that worked the best was to coat both surfaces with Titetbond wood glue, let them dry and then use a hot iron to bond the strips down to the hull. He plans to add a mat finish to the hull exterior so as to mirror the deck finish. John writes: With the America s Cup evolving back to a monohull for the next challenge (in three years) to overcome the perception of a drag race, the new boats will evolve either the 72-foot ocean racing class or one slightly shorter of 62-foot length. Either Abu Dhabi or New Zealand will probably be the location. The former has constant but more mild winds and calm seas while the later has extreme levels of both. My bet is that rigid sails and foils will be involved while the challenge is to spread the foils on a monohull. My vessel is both shallow but wide (62 with 13 beam), with foils (retractable) and rudder (2) tip foils. Three masts with identical sails, retractable dagger board/keel and a minimal crew (3) demand an innovative management concept. The mainsheets are electrically operated

6 with a continuous loop that allows extension/retraction at the same rate without manpower. The jib could be similar although I show manual operation. The skipper/tactician/helmsman operates the rudders and determines the sail setting. The forward crewman controls the jib and reefing of same while the remaining crewman controls the foils (depth and choice of side with interactive extension and retraction) and dagger board retraction, all operated electrically. This minimal crew should allow a lightweight and very swift sailing experience. This design could incorporate rigid sails (foam with glass skin) as I have shown before on other designs. The area of the triple, rather short sails, with flat top braces would be optimized for efficiency and to limit overturning forces, as well as being hoisted electrically. Cruiser Annabelle John Simmons The ideal small cruiser, John writes: Based on an article in Woodenboat magazine about a 13-foot gaff-rigged microcruiser for sailing on the Great Lakes, not the Ocean, but with few amenities. I chose to do a similar vessel with all the required elements for weekend cruising, or a week or two, yet spacious enough to day sail with up to five guests plus the one-man crew. The full form is similar to a Cape Cod Cat, a legendary sailor built since the 1800 s and still built and available today. But a cat is limited in its ability to point into the wind whereby a jib on a sloop corrects that limitation. The designer of Laurentia has created a clean design incorporating hard chines, a kick-up centerboard, a traveler, fib furling, and a potential use of a jenny to complete the details. A hinged foot at the base of the mast would allow trailering. A 3.4 HP Mercury motor is shown with an extended shaft and both it and propane are stowed under the cockpit seat and plumbed to the burner aboard. The beam is generous to allow a wide berth of almost four feet per person at the aft end and two feet forward. Seat and seat back foam cushions are shown. A porta-potty within an enclosed head, a galley with a double burner, sink with water supply and waste collection, storage for cooking gear and service items, and a table that doubles as a cushion support between the seating to either side, and finally a drop-in cavity for a cold chest of 32-quate size. Lighting would consist of battery-powered individual fixtures. Outboard fuel would be stored aft under the cockpit seating, as well as the outboard motor, safety fear, oar, line etc. The cockpit table doubles as the hatch closure and is vertically retained by runners to either side. Overhead is a sliding hatch cover that permits standing while preparing a meal. Headroom otherwise is about 5 8. The hull is constructed of plywood with glass over in a style called clinker=built. Long sheets of ply are required and a pattern of four pieces edge overlap over the full length per side. The pieces are oddly shaped but determine the hull shape and chines. The deck and deckhouse are domed and the cockpit is flat wrapped in two-dimensions. The cockpit and cabin sole are below the waterline slightly, thereby preventing through hull drainage and self-bailing. The rigging seems standard and traditional but in fact has a clever design for the topsail (or trysail). To allow for a clean and smooth foil shape to that sail, its attached spar is flipped from the right to left side over the gaff topping lift, thereby allowing the desired shape on both tacks. This arrangement is

7 referred to as a WTF (What the Flip ), a local phrase, I assume. At only 18 4 in with a beam of 8 4, this craft should sail well, be trailerable, safe at sea and look traditional as well. USS Constitution Paul Payne Paul Payne, although unable to attend the SMA meeting due to health problems, sent me several pictures of the progress he is making on the renovations to his USS Constitution model he has been scratch building for some time. His latest research indicated that he had made some errors in the appearance of the ship and is now in the process of correcting the mistakes. The pictures below show the modifications in progress, the installation of new upper bulwarks and the installation of the upper deck beams and foundation for the upper deck. It is to be hoped that Paul will recover completely from his recent surgery and be able to again attend our SMA meeting in the third Wednesday of the month. He did indicate that when he is able to attend one of our meetings, probably in January, he will also bring a lot of wood that he has collected over the years and is now realizing he will never use. More details on this potential lumber offer (free) will be in the next SMA Newsletter. Even kit modelers (as well as, of course, scratch builders) will benefit from this offer. Thank you, in advance, Paul!

8 HMS Surprise Chris Carl Egyptian Solar Boat Don Dressel Schooner painting Bob Penikas U-453 Sub Type VIIC Steve Lund Details of above models

9 Nao Bill Schultheis John Simmon s America s Cup John Simmon s cruiser Annabelle Observe John removing the cabin top so that you can see all the detail inside.

10 By Don Dressel Old Salts in Port: Steve Jones, John Bakker, Don Dressel, David Okamura, Guy Bell, Tom Stellar. Ships in Port: Derfflinger, HMS Vanguard. kits Clark, Yacht America and Harbor Tug Boat and a Proxon chop saw. The Mayflower Group meeting was not very well attended this month, which is too bad since a lot of very interesting items were brought up during the meeting. It was also different in that a number of ship model kits were brought in, a painting, as well as a unique tool. David Okamura brought in an old ship model kit that I originally thought was by Steingreaber, an old German wooden ship kit model. It was of the cutter Clark see photo. If you look close at the photo, you will see a tube of glue that comes with the kit! Since the kit is very old, I don t think the glue is any good since it is probably too old, but it appears that all the necessary material is there to build the kit. Dave obtained it at a special kit model sale (see Dave for details if you are interested). Dave also brought in a plastic kit of the Wappen von Hamburg in a plastic wrapper, purchased at the same kit model sale all at bargain prices. Since the plastic kit was not in a box, no picture was taken of the contents, but everything appeared to be there. It may be the same ship kit sale I attended years ago when I purchased my resin kit model of the submarine Sea Wolf SSN21 that cost $10.00, since it was an old kit. It subsequently won a first place award at the recent IPMS Orangcon To say I was surprised would be an understatement I only took it to the contest for fun. Tom brought in a Revell plastic kit model of the Yacht America, that he found to be very interesting, particularly the hull. There is a lot of good detail on this model, even though it is plastic. Again, it was a very good deal that he could not refuse. Apparently all the parts are there and Tom is looking forward to building the model. In order to join the crowd, John brought in from his garage a plastic kit model in 1:108 scale of a Harbor Tug by Revell. Whether or not the model will ever be built is a question, but John did show us the model kit, again apparently complete. No picture was taken of this model I must have missed it! John also brought in from his garage a Proxxon tool the chop saw. There ensued a long discussion amongst the group of the various tools used in wooden and plastic ship

11 model construction and the availability of Proxxon tools, many of which are very good tools. Some of the Proxxon tools are available from Micro-Mark, such as the chop saw at $ plus shipping. Proxxon also makes a good thickness planer and a useable band saw, which a number of modelers have used to make their ship models. Pictured here is the chop saw that John showed the Mayflower Group, which does have it uses when used to cut a multiple number of wooden parts quickly and accurately. As with all power tools care must be taken while using them they can do serious injury to the careless! Guy brought in a marine painting of the ship City of Berlin by Antonio Jackson You can see the painting behind the picture of the Derfflinger ship model that Don bought in to discuss. Don did talk about the Derfflinger and the progress he is making on the masting and rigging of the model. The lower shrouds and stays are now in place. See the photo to the left, which also shows the painting brought in by Guy. The masts and tops were made using the instructions supplied with the kit along with information from Abe Hoving s book The Ships of Abel Tasman, which also supplied much needed information on the rigging of a Dutch Flute. Sails will be installed along with the yards as the rigging process continues. John talked about the progress on his HMS Vanguard, the problems with the painting of the gunport areas and the difficulty he is experiencing with the coppering of the hull and the apparent lack of the needed copper sheets to complete the hull. We will see at the next Mayflower Group meeting what progress and solutions John has come up with on his ongoing efforts to build this model. He was given several hints as to just how he is going to cut the individual copper plates off the sheet. See the photo above of Johns model at the present time. The usual fun and camaraderie took place at the meeting and we all look forward to the next meeting, which will be in January. The December meeting is cancelled due to Christmas.

12 The Nautical Research Guild Conference Florida By Don Dressel The NRG Conference in Florida began with a tour of the U.S. Coast Guard Sector St. Petersburg, which was extremely interesting and well worth the time spent. The evident dedication of the U.S. Coast Guard personnel and the work they do to keep America safe is very evident in the work they do. Much of the efforts to keep America s waterways safe and secure is performed in a very professional manner. Lunch was provided at the Coast Guard Galley. After lunch, a tour of the Tampa Bay Pilots Association boat was provided, also explaining just what the pilots do today when ships come into port as well as a tour of the Florida Institute of Oceanography ship and just what they do. This was all very informative an interesting for those on the tour. For those MRG members who did not elect to go on the tour, your missed a good one! honorary member of the SMA and lives in Chicago with his lovely wife Barbara. Also on Thursday, in addition to the tour, registration was open for the conference in the Hotel and the vendor and exhibit room was open for set-up. In the particular case of the Florida conference, one individual, Gus Agustin, brought in a LOT of models (see photo attached showing Gus and his models he took up several tables to display all his models. Gus is shown next to the special case he had made up for him to display his smaller models. Gus is also, for those who do not know, an Some of the ship models from Florida are shown here although there were too many models to show all of them, so various ones were picked to show. The first one is a model of the 18 th Century longboat, a Model Shipways kit in 1:48 scale designed by Chuck Passaro, which your editor (and many others) has built. The unique thing about this model is the setting (see photo), which is very well done. Another example is a ship model of the Baltimore clipper Lively under construction by Mitch Michelson in 1:48 scale, a Lumberyard kit model designed by Jim Roberts, which

13 usually means that it is basically scratch built with the lumber supplied by Lumberyard and the plans by Jim. It looks like an excellent Baltimore clipper model and the research that Jim included in the kit I am sure is excellent. For those who like Baltimore clippers (John Simmons), this may be an excellent kit model to investigate. Note the name tags supplied with each model entered in the model display, which were very informative. A very interesting model, for me, was of the 35 ft. Queen Anne style Barge 1700 by Chuck Passaro, who scratch built the model and then designed a kit of the model that can be purchased from the and Erik Ronnberg. The very unique feature of this model is the way it was mounted in a case, the first time I have ever seen a model mounted this way I assume to be able to place the model in his home. The ship model is by Irwin Schuster based on original photos of the ship when launched. Syren Ship Model Com. check out the web site at The model is currently a group project with the San Diego Ship Modelers Guild and will be a fun build. The flags supplied in the kit are, for one example, outstanding. See the accompanying photo of the scratch built model by Chuck s prototype for the kit as well as a second build behind it. Another ship model of great interest to me was the Puritan in 1/50 scale based on a Mamoli kit model that was heavily modified with assistance from Rob Napier The final photo, shown on the next page, is of the full table of Gus Agustin s models along with the two table lineups of the other models that were on display. In the background of the photo you may be able to make out Jim Byrnes and his lovely wife standing next to there vendor table, which has not yet been set up. The photos I took of the models were taken prior to most of the vendors setting up their tables. The vendors present at the conference were Bluejacket Shipcrafters ( Byrnes Model Machines ( and Train Troll ( Two other vendors, although not at the conference,

14 did supply door prizes and information at the conference. They were Seawatch Books ( and Sherline Products, Inc. ( There were also a number of NRG Conference specials offered by the NRG including the galley Washington plans, the NRG Shop Notes #! and #2 as well as other NRG items. The Friday technical sessions were all very well done. Bill Maxwell started off by giving his talk on the construction of the Brodie Stove. Gus Agustin followed with his speech on the Techniques of a Miniaturist. David Antscherl finished off the morning with his talk on the Research Process for construction of well-researched ship models. After a good lunch was provided (sandwich buffet very good), the afternoon sessions consisted of a number of roundtable sessions, featuring an accomplished modeler discussing his modeling techniques while NRG Conference attendees sat at the table to ask questions when he was completed with is demonstration. The roundtable presenters and topics were: Chuck Passaro (carving), Bill Maxwell (Brodie Stove techniques), Gus Agustin (flag making), Paul Wharen (copper plate making), Charles Gravaliese (Solid Hull Modeling), Irwin Schuster (Sail Making) and David Antscherl (Frieze Painting). All these presentations were a very enjoyable 3 hours of presentations. An NRG membership meeting followed this, where it was announced that the next NRG Conference will be in Las Vegas, Nevada. The Saturday general sessions were very good and informative. Dr. William Murray gave a talk on large ancient Roman warships; Charles Harris topic was a presentation of American ship, a type VC 2-S-AP Victory Ship; Clay Feldman gave a very interesting presentation on The Hawaiian Fair American (a small ship, not to be confused with the Fair American brig), Keith Holland presented the U.S. Army Transport Maple Leaf history St. John s River, Florida; Paul Fontenoy on World War I German Submarine North Carolina Coast; Irwin Schuster on SS Mascotte and I believe Bill Maxwell on the Brodie Stove ( I am not sure of the last speaker). All in all, a very entertaining, enlightening, and interesting experience as is usual with all NRG Conferences. It is hoped that the next NRG Conference in Las Vegas will be as good as the one in Florida. It will be interesting to see just what the offered tour will be.

15 SMA Membership dues are due! It is that time of year again the dues are due. For those who do not know, we do have to pay for the meeting location where our monthly meetings are held, so there is a cost involved for the privilege of being able to show our Works in Progress and enjoy the ambiance of our fellow SMA members. The regular dues cost for members is $ For those few members who still receive their newsletter by snail mail, the cost is $ For those members who live beyond 100 miles, the cost is $ All checks should be made out to the SMA or you may pay by cash to our treasurer, Larry Van Es. For long distance members, the address is: Ship Modelers Association, Yorba Linda Blvd., suite G234, Yorba Linda, CA Election of Vice President At the December meeting there will be an election of the next Vice President of the SMA. The current Vice President, Mike DeCirbo, will be our new president for 2018 per our custom. Anyone interested in becoming Vice President of the SMA should attend the December meeting. Treasurer s Report Larry Van Es reports that there is $4, in the SMA account for the end of August Web Manager s Report Doug Tolbert has indicated that all the past SMA Newsletters are on the SMA web page for access to members only. Doug posts the latest SMA Newsletter onto the web page as soon as it is published. If there are any comments concerning the SMA Web page please inform one of the SMA officers. San Diego Ship Modelers Guild For those SMA members who may be interested, the San Diego Ship Modelers Guild now has their meetings on the Berkley on the second Tuesday of each month. Your editor and reporter routinely attend the meeting which is usually very informative and enlightening. MERRY CHRISTMAS & HAPPY NEW YEAR

16 Tony Devroude s Dauphin Royal Donald C. Dressel 908 W. 22 nd Street, Upland, CA NEXT MEETING WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 20, 7:30 PM, HILLCREST PARK RED CROSS BUILDING